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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; GSlob; OrthodoxPresbyterian; marron
It should also be noted that these mathematicians and scientists do not usually claim to be intelligent design theorists. And to me it doesn’t matter whether the answers are found because of intelligent design or despite it.

Indeed, Alamo-Girl. May we add Michael Polanyi to your list of physicists and mathematicians who are "doing" (or have "done") intelligent design without calling it that? If I'm not mistaken, Avshalom Elitzur, Attila Grandpierre, Man Ho, et al. are also candidates for such a list.

To my mind, the Discovery Institute has become a sideshow in recent times; but it's drawing all the attention. However, other scientists around the world continue to "do their thing" regardless. It is interesting to note that non-Americans are in the forefront of the development of a so-called "non-reductive science" -- which does not presume a materialist premise as the exclusive basis of all scientific inquiry.

Yet the neo-Darwinist argument is that ID may not even be mentioned in the public schools, lest American science students suffer a competitive disadvantage relative to the science being done in other parts of the world. To me, this is ludicrous.... If anything, "banning" ID now by court decree (sheesh....) may well mean that American science will have a lot of "catching up to do later on." FWIW.

I note the great interest overseas these days in formulating a "non-reductive" science, particularly in biology. Moreoever, there is a new international institute of theoretical biology in formation, under the auspices of a roster of highly distinguished biologists, physicists, and mathematicians. I'm not absolutely sure of this at the present time, but it may eventually have a presence in a major American university. Everybody stay tuned....

Thanks for your excellent post/essay, Alamo-Girl!

121 posted on 10/01/2005 10:39:05 AM PDT by betty boop (Know thyself. -- Plato)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so very much for your excellent post!!!

It is interesting to note that non-Americans are in the forefront of the development of a so-called "non-reductive science" -- which does not presume a materialist premise as the exclusive basis of all scientific inquiry.

Indeed. I look forward to this new institute of theoretical biology! And I agree with you on the risk of the U.S. falling behind.

It would be very sad for the U.S. to lose prestige in the world and drop off the leading edge simply because of its orthodoxy (or political correctness) concerning scientific materialism. Sigh...

126 posted on 10/01/2005 11:16:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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