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To: conserv371
You still have not answered where did the atom come from?

Perhaps it also came forth unbidden. Perhaps it was an inevitable consequence of existence.

Also, an effect without cause means there is no start point of decay since starting point indicates origin.

I don't follow.

In regards to I AM He goes by another name YAWEH or GOD. So if we build complex machinery we are the most intelligent life in this universe.

Okay. Or not, as the case may be.

How do you deal with angels and demons?

Do you mean "how do we (all) deal with the issue of angels and demons?" or are you asking how I personally deal with angels and demons? As to the first, I don't worry much about how we address the issue, so I don't really have an answer for you. As to the second, I deal with angels and demons in pretty much the same way I deal with elves and unicorns. Spray for 'em once a month, and the problem's solved. Or something. I dunno - I don't recall ever dealing with an angel or demon, but if I do, I'll let you know how I handle it.

517 posted on 10/02/2005 8:56:05 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re

When you have a cause you have an origin. A point at which the process starts. For a process not to start means you have a ray extending backward from the point of the result. This would contradict evolution since it would make the beginning eternal up to the point of the result. You would say there was a moment in time when the decaying process started. Now you saying that the atom is decaying. If the atom is decaying without a start point than the than the atom is eternal and not a billion or trillion or a googul years old. The one big flaw of evolution though is it does not take into account a quality action. We all know that when a manufacturer has quality tools, he can make an item in a lot more less time than it took in the past. During World War II, it took months for us to get information about what was happening in Europe, Africa, and Asia. Today, we can almost instantaneously after an event occurs anywhere in the world. Why does the process have to take so long? Why couldn't it take weeks or months? Also, you don't take into account starting with a mature animal. Either you have a chicken or an egg to start with.

In regards to angels good or bad? There are too many sightings to deny that there are beings that are supernatural.


531 posted on 10/03/2005 9:56:23 AM PDT by conserv371
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