But under our system of government, school curricula are. We've did pretty well for a long time without judges second-guessing those decisions. If you don't think school curricula have the right material, the proper thing is to persuade the decisionmakers (i.e., the people) otherwise. Getting the courts involved is the leftist route.
Borges: They are what they are based on what can be demonstrated by evidence.
Also absolutely correct.
Borges: ID is not a scientific theory because it cannot be tested
Not true. The concept of ID is that there is a way to objectively measure and test for "design." If more scientists would spend time working this concept or at least allowing it to be pursued, the issue would be more properly resolved.
Borges: nor has it led to any other scientific discoveries.
Whether something has led to other discoveries is not of significance in whether it can be studied scientifically or not.
shuckmaster: designed things are built as simply and efficiently as possible to still be functional while there's no limits to the complications of evolutionary biology.
Almost certainly true. This is the proper way to attack ID as an explanation for biological evolution. I believe that a true study of designed vs. undesigned objects would show that simplicity is an aspect of design and that unnecessary complexity is an aspect of evolved objects.
shuckmaster: The charlatans who promote this ineducable complexity BS are selling books to the most ignorant anti-science sentiment of the uneducated masses.
This attitude only helps to promote ID by showing its adherents that they are not being listened to. Some acknowledgment of legitimacy for the investigation is necessary to make the point above. Science is not advanced by calling others fools and refusing to pay attention to possibilities.