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To: RightInEastLansing
Please explain the nature of the "pocket" of reverse entropy that caused inanimate material to "randomly" organize in a complex fashion, thus leading to life.

The turnip truck reference is hilarious by the way! I feel like such a redneck. Good one! You so damn funny, I tell you what.

In relation to the second law of thermodynamics, might it be about the same as the buildup of complex elements during the lifecycle of stars? Lots of things get organized in a complex fashion. Certainly this does not violate the second law.

Isn't "entropy" kind of an overall average, with lots of local differences, such as you and me? Haven't studied that part of science in a while so if someone else wants to jump in please do so.

I think there was another post on this asking about the first and third laws?

As far as the turnip truck quip, glad you liked it. I prefer to deal with these subjects with some humor if possible. Better than name calling.

148 posted on 09/30/2005 3:53:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
"In relation to the second law of thermodynamics, might it be about the same as the buildup of complex elements during the life cycle of stars? Lots of things get organized in a complex fashion. Certainly this does not violate the second law."

Umm no. The life cycle of stars is clearly explainable by natural processes. Assembling something infinitely more complex then the computer you are pecking away at is something entirely different. I think the SETI analogy is relevant to this discussion. If randomness can account for extreme complexity, then why hasn't SETI found even the simplest pattern yet?
172 posted on 09/30/2005 4:05:54 PM PDT by RightInEastLansing
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