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To: calljack

The whole notion of 'cause and effect' in human society is essentially meaningless.




How can that be true?

Are you saying that large scale social conditions have no root causes? I don't understand how you can dismiss underlying conditions (Causes) for the current state of affairs (the effect),regardless of good or bad.

Political corruption causes starvation in africa.
Cause and effect, No?

Medical and political incompetence and personel ignorance leads to widespread AIDS, also in africa
Cause and effect, No?

If there is no cause and effect, then why should I send my kids to school? A better education will not help them live better lives?




There are indeed a host of correlations between all sorts of social phenomena, but that does not mean that these relations are causal.

To attempt to reduce these connections to some reductive equation is to fall into the intellectual delusion of scientism.

Purposive human behavior is irreducible to any causal account. In the final analysis, we all do what we do because we choose to do it.


50 posted on 09/30/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: headsonpikes

The whole notion of 'cause and effect' in human society is essentially meaningless.

Gobbledegook.

Purposive human behavior is irreducible to any causal account. In the final analysis, we all do what we do because we choose to do it.

To say that we all do what we want to because we want to, and ending your sentence there completly ignores WHY we do it. I do this action hoping for this response. Cause and effect.

There are indeed a host of correlations between all sorts of social phenomena, but that does not mean that these relations are causal.

We do lots of things, perhaps even EVERYTHING, because we believe that, in the end, we will benefit some way either financially, spiritually, or in some other way that floats our boat. We hope our actions will lead to a positive benifit. Cause leads to effect.

To attempt to reduce these connections to some reductive equation is to fall into the intellectual delusion of scientism.

I have no idea what this means.
I think maybe you read a lot.

You didn't answer my question,
Should I send my kids to school?
Either answer you gives will prove cause and effect,
won't it?


52 posted on 09/30/2005 2:23:17 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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