[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

"I had friends that were caught over Vladivostok, they managed to get their acft out of over water."

Wow. I am so impressed. You knew someone who did it.

However, you didn't do it yourself. And until you have, your argument cuts no ice with me. One cannot say how one will or won't do their duty until the moment of supreme test arrives.

Generally, the ones who most loudly castigated others for being cowards were the ones most loudly crying for their mamas during incoming.

[cynicom]

Pale...You obviously have never been involved in such operations. That shows.

With that in mind, I might suggest you read up a tad on such operations as have been carried out in the past. If you really want to express opinions read them and then get back to us.

I will send you some good urls on such for your edification.

[cynicom]

Pale...Check this thread out...You will note that not one military acft in all those years surrendered their acft and crew. Not one.

http://www.silent-warriors.com/shootdown_list.html