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Massachusetts Should Close Down OpenDocument
FOX News ^ | September 28, 2005 | James Prendergast

Posted on 09/29/2005 8:52:01 PM PDT by Golden Eagle

The broader media usually take little interest in public policy debates about technology, but they’re missing a big story in Massachusetts.

The technology trades, blogs and industry are buzzing about a monumental policy shift in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Officials in the state have proposed a new policy that mandates that every state technology system use only applications designed around OpenDocument file formats.

Such a policy might seem like something that should concern only a small group of technology professionals, but in fact the implications are staggering and far-reaching. The policy promises to burden taxpayers with new costs and to disrupt how state agencies interact with citizens, businesses and organizations.

Worse, the policy represents an attack on market-based competition, which in turn will hurt innovation. The state has a disaster in the making.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: brassbuzard; microsloth; microsoft; microsoftshill; opensource; paidshill; redmondlapdog; redmondmalware; redmondpayroll; redmondshill; twobitweasel
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To: ordinaryguy

Legal worries? He means they want to see the US patent system destroyed, and this is their way of circumventing it.


61 posted on 09/29/2005 9:29:36 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

shrieking?

Please, all you do is make exuses and label people 'commies'.

And you fail to answer even a basic question: what kind of technology experience do you have?

You call that a 'personal attack' in an effort to avoid answering the question.


62 posted on 09/29/2005 9:30:02 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Golden Eagle

Allowing open access to public records is liberal? Preserving records in a format which someone can work with 100 years from now is liberal?


63 posted on 09/29/2005 9:30:08 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Petronski
The original posting tries to pass this off as MERELY a Fox editorial...but now we know it's something much more (or less, depending on the perspective).

Quite so. Personally, I'm disappointed in Fox's blatant disregard for something so obvious as the fact that the author of the piece is in bed with a group funded (at least in part) by Microsoft. As flashbunny pointed out, discovering this reality was truly trivial.

I thought FNC was supposed to have more integrity than, say, CNN. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't.

64 posted on 09/29/2005 9:30:49 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: NJ_gent
Let's see, a document format that can be read by anything, written by anything, is fully supported by free software packages

Mass officials have been quoted as saying PDF files meet the state standards. Please point me to some free software for creating PDF files.

65 posted on 09/29/2005 9:31:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Prime Choice

{getting into the cone of silence} Shhhhh, I support 5 MACS and they run great. {getting out of the cone of silence}


66 posted on 09/29/2005 9:31:20 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: ordinaryguy; Golden Eagle
Allowing open access to public records is liberal? Preserving records in a format which someone can work with 100 years from now is liberal?

In Brass Buzzard's world, anyone who doesn't bow and quiver before the Almighty Microsoft is either Liberal, Communist or a Hippy. Depends on whether or not he doesn't like you, really hates you, or simply detests your thinking for yourself.

67 posted on 09/29/2005 9:32:10 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Which is why it's not a good idea to mandate an entire state government to use it, with no alternatives allowed.

Uh, File->Save As

68 posted on 09/29/2005 9:33:01 PM PDT by magellan ( by)
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To: Golden Eagle
Using non-patented technology is an effort to destroy the US patent system? So, if I obtain a patent, and someone uses a competing technology, not covered by my patent, you'll accuse them of trying to destroy the US patent system?
69 posted on 09/29/2005 9:33:13 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: afnamvet
"Tin Turkey"? "Brass Buzzard"?

It's what the adolescents of the board call me since they always lose any attempted arguments on the merits. Typical liberal behavior, obviously.

70 posted on 09/29/2005 9:33:58 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: PAR35
Mass officials have been quoted as saying PDF files meet the state standards. Please point me to some free software for creating PDF files.

In Open Office, "File | Export as PDF"

71 posted on 09/29/2005 9:34:07 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God for Cyborg.)
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To: PAR35

http://www.primopdf.com/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
http://www.pdf995.com/

it's called google.

You type something into it, and it finds it for you.

Those are just the first three. There are more, including software like html2pdf.

All free.


72 posted on 09/29/2005 9:34:13 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Golden Eagle
Yeah we remember, a bunch of liberals lined up behind Billy Clinton and Janet Reno. Sounds like you were you in the back too?

I thought ad hominem is what you were accusing others of in this thread. I disagreed with the anti-trust lawsuits brought against Microsoft. As a free market capitalist I don't support anti-trust legislation as it's just a club for the politically connected to control markets with.

Back to the point you're trying to distract from with ad hominems against me, this 'editorial' was written by MS to misrepresent OpenDocument. Absolutely nothing stops MS from making OpenDocument a file type that their applications can read and write in addition to their own proprietary formats. Microsoft just fears it won't have MA taxpayers stuck on it's useless Office product upgrade cycle anymore when their are free word processors and spreadsheet programs available to use.

73 posted on 09/29/2005 9:34:22 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: underbyte
Cash Cow, now only $499.99


74 posted on 09/29/2005 9:35:21 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Golden Eagle

Hmm, here's one of the icons of the open source movement, Eric Raymond, writing for front page magazine.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19658

Yes there are a lot of leftists in the "open source" movement, but in reality the "open source" movement is libertarian in nature. BTW, if you haven't noticed free republic is ran on Apache and not IIS. It's probably coded in Perl too.


75 posted on 09/29/2005 9:35:30 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Golden Eagle

Thanks for the decoding. : )


76 posted on 09/29/2005 9:35:44 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: afnamvet
{getting into the cone of silence} Shhhhh, I support 5 MACS and they run great. {getting out of the cone of silence}

(((enabling Tempest shielding))) Confidentially, I've got two SPARCs, one Mac, and fourteen Intel systems running Linux & OpenBSD. It's a hobby! (((disabling Tempest shielding)))

Oof. Lovely day. Fnord.

77 posted on 09/29/2005 9:35:57 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Golden Eagle

hah. lose arguments?

Only if the judges come from the bizarro world.

I'm still waiting. This time I'll ask you directly:

What experience do you have in either the technology (software design, computers) or internet fields? What is your area of expertise that gives you knowledge of the good or bad points of open standards?


78 posted on 09/29/2005 9:36:15 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: PAR35

http://www.gohtm.com/


79 posted on 09/29/2005 9:36:18 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
,I>if you post to incite you will get batted around.

I simply post facts like the ones in the above article. The romper room antics and children who seem to have lost their parents are hardly damaging to my position, but make yours look exactly like what it is - anarchists who favor liberal policies like the ones currently proposed in Mass.

80 posted on 09/29/2005 9:37:48 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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