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To: DeFault User

Interesting response.
I was all over the map ideologically in the Sixties,"chopping it up"with hard core white supremists as well as black militants.Went to Birch Society meetings and SDS get togethers in the same week.Got high with the hippies and helped break up a Leftist demo at my junior college in 1965.
I was the ultimate seeker.I wanted to sample everything that was happening back then.I became very disillusioned by both the Right and the Left but I think the Left's betrayal hurt me the most.You see,I EXPECTED more out of them.They promised so much and delivered so little.
Even today I am still estranged by many from both political spectrums.I really believe today's liberals are the biggest phonies on the face of the Earth.Yet,while respecting the Capitalist ethic and rejecting socialism,I never found much warmth in the Wall Street big money conservatism that I grew up around.A lot of real cold folks in that mindset.
Lots of Dylan threads lately.I think he is a kindred soul to me.If I love one quote by him it has to be"So let us stop talking falsely now,the hours getting late".
My Sixties philosophy that has lasted till this moment.


350 posted on 09/30/2005 2:03:34 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
I never found much warmth in the Wall Street big money conservatism that I grew up around.

Have you ever been around conservatives or a conservatism that you did like? If so what kind of conservatism do you like or agree with. Generally people do not completely agree with one another, but some issues create such a chasm that they are irreconcilable for parnership or support.

I have seen the left lie constantly for decades as a matter of principle, exactly as the people they agree with most often, the godless communists' and socialists including the religious left.

The warmth you feel from the left is from the pot in which you are being cooked.

358 posted on 09/30/2005 3:36:19 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: Riverman94610
I was the ultimate seeker.I wanted to sample everything that was happening back then.I became very disillusioned by both the Right and the Left but I think the Left's betrayal hurt me the most.You see,I EXPECTED more out of them.They promised so much and delivered so little.

I had a colleague who was a committed Marxist. The guy was not evil, he sincerely believed this was the way to better mankind. I had to admire the good he wanted to achieve but I refused to challenge his political beliefs since he somehow thought this was the ultimate intellectual achievement. I hope he was smart enough to learn from experience.

I knew people who had escaped from Communists in Cuba, lived in Nazi occupied France, survived the Civil War in Spain and lived under the Caudillo's regime so I had no illusions about the far right or far left. Shrill ideologs and screamers seldom have any truth to impart.

361 posted on 09/30/2005 6:40:18 PM PDT by DeFault User
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