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Breaking: Delay Indicted
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Posted on 09/28/2005 9:35:52 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's office.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; christiantarget; congress; corruption; criminal; deguerin; delay; dickdeguerin; hearnopork; itsallabout2006; justdamn; kaybailyhuchison; kbh; oinkoink; parasites; ronnieearle; seenopork; sleaze; speaknoport; witchhunt
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To: Graymatter
Oh, go pound sand. We have a leader who is the President of the United States. The problem we have is with people who second-guess everything that is said or done, and then gripe that they don't have a leader.

That would be you I am talking about.

681 posted on 09/28/2005 11:19:11 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: MNJohnnie
That is what is being reported. Is this bad for us?

I guess that depends on who "us" is...

682 posted on 09/28/2005 11:19:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: the Deejay

Yeah, let's all throw away the system over one guy.
Please.
If you don't like your Republican, take him out in your primary.


683 posted on 09/28/2005 11:19:41 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: idkfa
Thanks for the link to the indictment.

After reading it may I just say,
"What a JOKE !!"
No specific allegations about Delay
and...

Delay voluntarily waived the statute of limitations so this indictment could be brought after the normal three year statue of limitations had run.

It doesn't sound like Delay is too worried about these charges.

Laughing at Ronnie Earle -- form over substance as usual.
684 posted on 09/28/2005 11:20:19 AM PDT by E.C.I. (Evil Conservative Industries)
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To: mathluv

Not only did Chris Bell lose his seat....

After he lost his seat, but before his term was up...he was the one that accused Delay of a bunch of stuff that got him in the crosshairs of the ethics committee...

AND, he is a good friend of Ronnie Earle....the idiot Attorney General---that went after Kay Bailey Hutchison one time...and failed.

IF this stuff has been posted before, I apologize, I just got back...and I haven't had time to read the thread.


685 posted on 09/28/2005 11:20:20 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mike Pence for President of the United States!)
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To: RoseofTexas
You are equating media coverage of Sheehan with acceptance of her message and motivation. Name me a Democrat of any standing who has publicly backed her or has even been seen with her? I know Hillary Clinton did and was immediately sorry for doing so.

Sheehan is yesterdays news and the more she is shown giving her rants the more people run away from her, all except the loony tunes on the fringe.
686 posted on 09/28/2005 11:20:44 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That is what is being reported. Is this bad for us?
I guess that depends on who "us" is...


Small Govt Conservatives. Freepers. Don't know anything about Dreier and assumed from your "OMG" that you had an opinion on the matter.


687 posted on 09/28/2005 11:22:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: Brilliant
<>> And just as the Jury is about to expire, as well.... They MUST do something now, or the media will be showered with Democrat New Orleans Corruption stories for months... Now they can point and say," See! They ALL do it!!" (Even if it isn't true...)
688 posted on 09/28/2005 11:22:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: Txsleuth

When he was talking on Fox, he did mention that he had been the one who brought the charges. He just did not say he was running against Delay next year.


690 posted on 09/28/2005 11:23:17 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: Miss Marple
We are in a war with the Rats and the idea is to keep on pushing them, not give up!!

Tell 'em like is girl!... : ) <<< me

691 posted on 09/28/2005 11:23:29 AM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: eraser2005; onyx; dubyaismypresident; steveegg
I'm not saying he's not partisan, but if those are the only numbers I see, then I'd be inclined to say he's hardly acting like a partisan democrat.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

692 posted on 09/28/2005 11:23:34 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: jw777
When's Pelosi's Trial and Hillary's trial?

September 31st (also known as the 12th day of Never)... and I'm not terribly sure it's sarcasm...

693 posted on 09/28/2005 11:24:01 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I wish I knew too. ACU rating is 92. I'd like to see a bull dog in the leadership position, imho...


694 posted on 09/28/2005 11:24:22 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote.)
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To: eraser2005

Go back to DU.


695 posted on 09/28/2005 11:24:47 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: txrangerette

You are correct. To prove insider trading would mean to prove Frist had access to information unavailable to others and that is very difficult unless it can be shown he has access to the quarterly earnings information.


696 posted on 09/28/2005 11:24:55 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: rdb3

Trolls are out in force today.


697 posted on 09/28/2005 11:25:09 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: tcrlaf
Speaking of Democrat corruption in LA, I am reasonably sure this Delay indictment is meant to take attention away from what looks to be a pretty bad black eye for the Dems in LA.
698 posted on 09/28/2005 11:27:14 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: eraser2005
Please explain this away Troll.

The original article in no longer on the Houston Chronicle web page but here is a post from back in May. Prosecutor in probe of DeLay PAC raises funds for other side Houston Chronicle ^ | May 18, 2005 | MICHAEL HEDGES Posted on 05/19/2005 1:47:29 AM CDT by YCTHouston Prosecutor in probe of DeLay PAC raises funds for other side Earle's speech on political corruption keys on the GOP leader, whom he likens to a bully By MICHAEL HEDGES Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle, who denies partisan motives for his investigation of a political group founded by Republican leader Tom DeLay, was the featured speaker last week at a Democratic fund-raiser where he spoke directly about the congressman. A newly formed Democratic political action committee, Texas Values in Action Coalition, hosted the May 12 event in Dallas to raise campaign money to take control of the state Legislature from the GOP, organizers said. Earle, an elected Democrat, helped generate $102,000 for the organization. In his remarks, Earle likened DeLay to a bully and spoke about political corruption and the investigation involving DeLay, the House majority leader from Sugar Land, according to a transcript supplied by Earle. "This case is not just about Tom DeLay. If it isn't this Tom DeLay, it'll be another one, just like one bully replaces the one before," Earle said. "This is a structural problem involving the combination of money and power," he added. "Money brings power and power corrupts." The crowd of 80 to 100 Democratic activists responded by making donations that exceeded the event's fund-raising goal. Reasons for speaking Earle and his staff of prosecutors have obtained indictments of three DeLay associates on charges that their political committee, the DeLay-led Texans for a Republican Majority, broke state campaign finance laws with the use of corporate donations on its way to helping establish Republican control in the state House. Earle said Wednesday he knew the group that met in Dallas was raising money for Democrats, but that it was not his reason for speaking. "I'd make the same speech to any group, Republican or Democrat, as long as the group was interested in honest, open government," Earle said in a telephone interview. The prosecutor said he did not recall making other fund-raising speeches for anyone besides himself since he began investigating DeLay. "We are investigating anybody who has committed a crime," he said when asked if DeLay is a target of the probe. Political analysts said Earle's appearance left him open to questions about his motives. "It may help Tom DeLay establish his case that Ronnie Earle's investigation is a partisan witch hunt," said Richard Murray, a political scientist with the University of Houston. "It clearly fuels the perception that his investigation is politically motivated. It was probably not a wise move," said Larry Noble, a former Federal Election Commission lawyer who heads the watchdog group Center for Responsive Politics. "It is somewhat less serious because he is a (Democratic) elected official," Noble said. "Otherwise, it would be a serious problem." DeLay spokesman Dan Allen said Earle has wasted public money on an investigation that has amounted to a public relations campaign, "and now a fund-raising effort for Democrats by Mr. Earle." 'Pot-and-kettle' comparison Allen said DeLay has not been contacted by Earle or any government investigator about anything related to the investigation. Russell Langley, a co-founder of Texas Values in Action Coalition, said Earle was among those who inspired formation of the committee and that the prosecutor's participation in the campaign was proper. "Throughout his career he has represented honesty and integrity in government. ... As long as he was raising money legally, we didn't see any problem with it," Langley said. He added that he was not concerned about whether Earle's fund-raising appearance might compromise his stance as an independent investigator of potential crimes involving Republicans. "We weren't worried about that, considering Tom DeLay's partisanship," he said. "That would really be a pot-and-kettle comparison." Title of address In his speech, titled "Public Safety and the Tone of Corruption in Government," Earle recounted some of his investigations of alleged public corruption by Democratic and Republican officeholders. "He talked ... about improving ethics in government," said Marc Stanley, who hosted the party at his Dallas home. "There were a few questions about whether he was receiving pressure not to indict Tom DeLay. He answered that he lives out on a farm and he wasn't worried about pressure whatsoever." Former House Speaker Jim Wright, a Fort Worth Democrat who was forced to resign from Congress in 1989 after the House Ethics Committee began investigating whether he improperly profited from a book publishing deal, was among those who attended the event. He is scheduled to speak at the committee's next fund-raiser in June. DeLay has become a lightning rod for criticism by Democrats in Texas and elsewhere, especially because he led efforts to change the state's U.S. House district boundaries to the electoral advantage of Republicans. Questions about his overseas travels, connections to lobbyists and political fund raising have become a rallying point for Democrats looking ahead to elections in 2006. "I think Tom DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence," Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told Massachusetts Democrats on Saturday. Dallas lawyer Ed Ishmael, another co-founder of the Democratic committee to which Earle spoke, is described on the group's Web site as "a leader in the Howard Dean presidential campaign" of 2004.

699 posted on 09/28/2005 11:28:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Got facts? Every rundown I've seen of his political corruption prosecutions shows that the VAST majority of politicians he has pursued have been Dims.

I know folks don't like to let facts get in the way of a good attack line, but unless you can support the charge that Earle selectively prosecutes Republicans, you shouldn't make it. And I don't think you can support it.

I don't know whether Delay did anything or not. But to claim that this happened only because of a prosecutor who only goes after GOPers is to be completely divorced from reality.

700 posted on 09/28/2005 11:28:09 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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