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To: dmz

Do you really think it's impossible to discuss and analyze ID without introducing "God did it" into the picture?


19 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:15 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961

In short, yes I do. God is the proverbial "elephant in the room" when ID is discussed.

It is entirely fair to ask questions about the nature of the designer when the designs live and operate in the material world. Any discussion of ID without a discussion about the designer is incomplete, IMHO.


24 posted on 09/28/2005 9:57:44 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Publius6961
Do you really think it's impossible to discuss and analyze ID without introducing "God did it" into the picture?

A simple question inevitably comes up with ID -- who, or what, designed the designer?

And to say that this question is irrelevant to the idea that biological organisms on earth were designed is to deny a very rudimentary line of inquiry when forensically analyzing an item for evidence of design -- who designed it, and for what purpose?

These questions inevitably lead to the conclusion that the designer is an undesigned, omnipotent, prime mover whose motivations we cannot understand. Sounds like God to me.

113 posted on 09/29/2005 9:12:38 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Publius6961
The collection of essays about ID, Uncommon Dissent, has contributions covering the spectrum from Christians to atheists to mystics. Try it. It's a real page turner.
156 posted on 09/29/2005 12:31:49 PM PDT by Chaguito
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