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To: Matchett-PI
This Michael Ruse?

In fact, although some ID supporters are literalists, most are not. The leaders of the movement--the retired lawyer Phillip Johnson, the biochemist Michael Behe, and the philosopher and mathematician William Dembski--all believe in a very old earth, and they all embrace some measure (for Behe, particularly, a large measure) of evolution. The point is that none of these people think that natural selection alone--or any natural-law-driven mechanism--can explain everything.

Having made this distinction, however, I do think that ID and creationism have more than a few links. Supposedly, the ID people do not specify what kind of intelligence is involved in getting over the hump of irreducible complexity, but it is pretty clear in their writings that this intelligence is the Christian God. No one thinks that a super-bright grad student on Andromeda is running an experiment here on planet Earth, and that every now and then he or she jiggles things about a bit to see what will happen. Dembski, for one, has been explicit that he sees the designing intelligence as the Logos talked of at the beginning of Saint John’s Gospel.


96 posted on 09/28/2005 1:25:18 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138; Matchett-PI
but it is pretty clear in their writings that this intelligence is the Christian God

And this, facts be what they are, is the stumbling stone. I suppose, if it was Oprahsis, moongoddess of the corn, black madonna, then a compromise could be made?

97 posted on 09/28/2005 1:29:19 PM PDT by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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