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To: NVD

For most people, both evolutionists and creationists, intelligent design means Christian creationism. However, there are other views of creation among Americans. An example is the Islamic Intelligent design described in a recently published book, Creation AND/OR Evolution An Islamic Perspective, by a Muslim theist evolutionist, T.O.Shanavas. The author is very critical about Muslim anti-evolutionist. However, he claims that Theory of evolution has an Islamic root and, in fact, according to him, Muslims proposed theory of evolution centuries before Charles Darwin.

This book is a challenge to those who want to teach Christian creationism or Intelligent design in science class in American public school. America being a secular country, there is a separation of church and state. Government cannot promote any purticular religion.

I want to ask those who want to teach Christian intelligent design and creationism in science classes: Do you want Shanavas' Muslim Intelligent design also included in science curriculum or only Christian intelligent design in any of the states such as Kansas, Pennsylvania, etc?

Shanavas is a creationist but strongly opposes the teaching of any form of creationism in public schools in America. In a news paper (The Daily Telegram) interview Shanavas states that there is no place for intelligent design in science class rooms. (http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=Post;CODE=00;f=2)[I][B]


44 posted on 11/05/2005 6:58:29 AM PST by tufail
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To: tufail
Point 1:
You do not understand the case nor ID. The specific ID case in the Dover SD is simply to read a disclaimer that says that many do not believe that the source of our complex nature is due to evolution. I don't disagree with all evolutionary concepts but I question the beginning (that was my shot at 'Big Bang')......simply b/c it has never been rationally explained. I tend to believe that their is a higher power, a creator simply because of the irreducible complexity argument as well as the anthropic principle (as ID outlines). When I look at the complexity of our universe, I can only come to one conclusion.....there had to be a creator. I believe it takes more faith to believe otherwise.
Like you, I do not want religion taught in schools but ID, and more specifically the Dover case is not about religion.
Point 2: There is not "wall of separation" as you indicated above. Our Constitution has two religious clauses: the establishment clause and the free exercise clause (in neither do you see a separation of church and state). The whole notion is a fallacy based upon a faulty case in the 1940's (Everson v Board of Ed.) based upon a personal letter that Jefferson had written the Danbury Baptists. Check out wallbuilders.com for more info.
45 posted on 11/07/2005 9:52:12 AM PST by NVD
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