Posted on 09/27/2005 10:42:49 PM PDT by Stoat
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Do the people of Great Britain really want a huge and expensive statue in one of their most famous and historically significant places deifying a Marxist who, when placed in a position of power, ran his country into the ground and left a legacy of one of the most spectacular escalations of crime ever seen on the planet?
Just curious.....
Funny, I was going to flame you over the subject matter of the post, but you quite elegantly took the wind from my sails with your eloquent and succinct sub-comment.
Well done, and Godspeed!
BTW, Nelson Mandela belongs in jail to this day. So does Winnie "necklaces" Mandela.
Marxist scum is Marxist scum. No matter what the means of political posturing.
I think it's appropriate that his statue be placed in Trafalgar. The pigeons will crap all over it.
Thanks so much for actually READING the thread, quite a rare thing it seems :-)
I am sincerely curious about any debate, or lack thereof regarding the subject matter in this case. I hadn't seen any articles about this previously, although I must confess that I try to spread my newsreading focus over the whole world and so I may well have missed it.
I suppose that such a blight upon once-noble Trafalgar Square and such an insult against Lord Nelson is to be expected from a city that elects the likes of Red Ken Livingstone, but I'm just wondering if there was any particular debate about Mandela as the subject or whether it was pretty much a matter of 'royal' fiat from the Mayor's office.
My hope is that some of our British Friends who are familiar with this matter might chime in, although all posts are of course entirely welcome :-)
" Nelson Mandela belongs in jail to this day."
No! He should have been hanged years ago.
Glad I saw Lord Nelson and Trafalgar before the Marxist interloper Nelson made his way there.
We both know that there are many thinking Brits. The problem is that they are drowned out by the rabble.
Eventually, we WILL win, but at tragic and huge cost caused BY the rabble, who will continually try to blame US for their folly.
Kosovo was the beginning of the end for these dimwits. Katrina has accelerated their demise. RIta should prove their foolishness.
Then again, I do suffer from excessive positivism, tempered with a pleasant outlook on life. It's what keeps me from killing everything and everyone around me............
LOL
Just curious. Is there a statue of Sir Cecil Rhodes anywhere in Britain? Shouldn't there be? How about Winston Churchill?
Why Britain?
Your statement reminds me of a time when I was watching an interview with Miss Manners, the famous expert on all matters relating to etiquette
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She was asked something to the effect of "How do you define Etiquette?" and her answer was "Etiquette is the name that we give to that very thin grey line that keeps us all from killing each other."
This was quite funny because her demeanor, elocution and manner of dress wouldn't have suggested to the casual viewer that she had such a wry wit :-)
There are plenty of old Leninist/Stalinist statues in junk yards all over eastern Europe. Britain should consider saving money by importing them and raising them in Trafalgar Square - just as appropriate as one of Mandela.
You beat me to it! Megatonnes of Lenin and Stalin statues are available for cheap! Done in the finest "Soviet realism" style, too. Apprived by Comrade Stalin himself! Other appropriate revolutionary heroes are available as well that would surely please Imam Blairistani's comrade "Red Ken" - including such notables as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, "Iron" Felix Dzerzhinsky, even Lavrenti Beria!
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A cursory Google Image Search turned up this one in South Africa, but nothing in Great Britain
Kimberley - Museums and Historic Places
Shouldn't there be?
Absolutely, in my view.
How about Winston Churchill?
There appear to be at least a couple in Great Britain, and his stellar legacy is also honored by The Churchill Centre
Sir Winston Churchill - The Churchill Centre
I agree however with the obvious intent of your question.....Mandela's connection to Great Britain is only an ideological one shared by Britain's far Left. There are other people far more deserving of a statue, particularly in such an important and historic place as Trafalgar Square.
Britain's hard Left share an ideological connection with this Marxist thug. Other than that, no reason that I'm aware of. Mandela didn't save Great Britain from the French fleet or anything truly meaningful like that......
You're absolutely correct of course, and unfortunately I am in Seattle which, unfortunately, has one of the Lenin statues in the Fremont district, a traditional haven for hippies, Marxists and the hard Left.
Statue of Vladimir Lenin, Seattle, Washington
Maybe the statute isn't finished yet. The rope to be added?
The artistic fault is that it's not transparent and red.
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Having some of the friendly British engineers design a pumping system by which the hands would drip red blood continuously from the hands would be a nice touch as well.
This might be a bit frightening for visiting schoolchildren, but probably not a whole lot more so than the statue of the naked pregnant woman that they already have installed there.
Lord Nelson would not have approved, and his memory and accomplishments are being insulted by this,
Probably won't be long till someone hangs a petrol filled
tire around it's neck. Now THAT will be art!!!
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