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To: winodog

If you can't understand why it was wrong for the apartheid gov ernment to shove people off their land then I'm not going to bother to explain. Perhaps you should read more about the lives of people affected by the laws that they passed instead of considering that it was just blacks in straw huts. It wasn't. I'm not surprised at the response because I know that some freepers already have a mindset about this and haven't thought about the people. Of course, it's never occured to you that this could have been YOU but for the grace of God.


28 posted on 09/28/2005 5:30:51 AM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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To: cyborg
If you can't understand why it was wrong for the apartheid gov ernment to shove people off their land then I'm not going to bother to explain.

  I'm actually glad to see some one post this. If the land was stoled originally, then it seems they should have a claim of action. And they certainly were not better off under an apartheid government.

  That said, there are 2 very important issues that appear to be lacking here. First, what is the standard of proof that the land was originally stolen? You would have to show, first, that it was legitimitely owned, and secondly, that the transfer was involuntary. The article glosses over those points - for all I know, they were properly shown - but I somehow doubt it. If anyone knows more, I'd be interested in hearing it.

  The second point, though, is one that we're seeing increasingly in this country too, a lack or disregard for any statute of limitations. At some point, we should take ownership as a given, and void old claims, simply to keep basic order. We see this a lot in any dealings in antiquities (witness the current brouhaha about the Getty Museum, or the American Indian claims in upstate New York.) Is 60-70 years long enough? It's even more complex, of course, as the previous owners would have been prohibited from advancing a claim under the old South African government.

  Suffice to say, not a simple situation. From the (admittedly) little I know of the situation, I'm inclined to think the current South African government is wrong in this situation, for the reasons given earlier. Any other links, though?

Drew Garrett

51 posted on 09/30/2005 1:25:12 PM PDT by agarrett
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