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To: billbears
Of course that was the original intent as understood by the Framers. Are you now questioning their logic as well?

No, I'm questioning yours. Their intent was clear. They recognized the God given right to live. Why don't you? Our Constitution does not grant any branch or any level of government the right to kill citizens for the crime of being disabled. Previously you suggested that the federal government has that right. Now you're backing out of that, and saying the state governments have that right. You're still wrong.

239 posted on 09/28/2005 10:37:29 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
Their intent was clear.

Yes it was. To write a document that gave specific enumerated powers to the federal government. Dealing with medical issues was not one of them

Our Constitution does not grant any branch or any level of government the right to kill citizens for the crime of being disabled.

Here we go on our civics lesson for today. Contrary to the evangelical Republican distorted view of this nation's history, our Constitution was not written to put a limitation on the governments of the respective and sovereign states. Until the 1930s, the Constitution did not fully apply to the separate and sovereign states. It applied only to the national government. I suggest you look up 'incorporation theory' to further test that issue. The Framers had no idea some idiot would one day apply the limitations of the federal government upon the states. And I seriously doubt the Framers thought the citizens of a respective state would have allowed their knowledge of civics to have degraded so low that the citizens would actually want it or believe that was the original intent.

Now you're backing out of that, and saying the state governments have that right. You're still wrong.

I have no problem as I'm not backing out of anything. At no point in any post I have ever made did I state, insinuate, or assume the national government had a right to 'kill the disabled'. What I stated is that it was none of their business.

Look, you have a problem with the separate and sovereign states having the final rule over 'the lives, liberties, and properties of the people'? I suggest you take it up with the papers of James Madison. Reread Federalist #45 which he wrote. His specific beliefs of Constitutional limitations on the federal government were clear. Then go take it up with your state legislature and quit trying to destroy federalism on your unholy quest to enforce your view nationwide.

243 posted on 09/28/2005 10:49:33 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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