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To: DaveLoneRanger

The only federal issue here is whether or not the Dover School Board has violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment. They obviously have not. End of case. back to the evo-crevo debate.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 9:33:22 AM PDT by jwalsh07 ("Don't get stuck on stupid!" General Honore to twit reporter)
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To: jwalsh07
The only federal issue here is whether or not the Dover School Board has violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment. They obviously have not. End of case. back to the evo-crevo debate.

The only obvious thing is that ID proponents have no qualms about lying in the name of religion. This lie does not make their claim true; instead it desecrates the very values they pretend to hold dear. How can one practice deception and not be in the thrall of the Great Deceiver?

11 posted on 09/27/2005 9:48:13 AM PDT by Antonello
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To: jwalsh07
The only federal issue here is whether or not the Dover School Board has violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment. They obviously have not.

Violating the Establishment clause is the only issue here. But only one day into a 5 week trial is a bit soon to come to a verdict.

Members of the school board are on record saying precisely that their motivation *is* to insert religion into public schools. And the textbook they recommended was originally written in support of the explicitly religious "creationism" viewpoint, and the text was changed only to replace the word "creationism" with the words "Intelligent Design".

The Discovery Institute, which is almost solely devoted to the ID issue has bailed out of this one. I'm sure they can see a defeat coming, and don't want to be tainted by it.

You guys are going to lose this one. Badly.

18 posted on 09/27/2005 10:03:16 AM PDT by narby
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