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To: Antonello
Deism. Which happens to be my religion, by the way.

Forget lying, this is simply stupidity. Now you're arguing that Christian Creationists are imposing Deism on public school students. Your argument is breathtaking in its lunacy.

ID denying religious motives is akin to Peter denying Christ. It is a falsehood, and one meant for selfish benefit.

You don't seem to understand that motives are non-justiciable. Why is that?

The reading of the statement is a mandatory requirement being imposed on the teachers by the school board.

That's what school boards do in the American Federalist system. Local school boards tell teachers what to teach. You with me here?

That statement presents ID as an implied equivalent competing theory and endorses an ID text, which is conveniently available right there in the classroom.

Well, by all means, call Farhrenheit 451, a book needs burning. The book is not taught, it is not in the classroom and thus you have made another false assertion. False assertions win no arguments and put no gold stars on your forehead.

To me it appears you either cannot or will not see the deception being put forth, and instead you are willing to rationalize it as virtuous through word parsing.

What I see as non virtuous is faux conservatives driven by their science influenced ideology willing to trash the Constitution and the powers of locals. That would be you. You don't want your kids in that school, move. You want school board members who won't challenge scientific dogma, vote them out. But keep the feds the hell out of my towns business. Clear enough for you?

As such, you are aiding in the promotion of Satan's plan of forcing God's children back to Him by denying them their free agency.

LOL, you can't help yourself, you are what you claim anybody who disagrees with you is, a damn liar. I belive that's called projection.

Project on!

54 posted on 09/27/2005 12:51:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07 ("Don't get stuck on stupid!" General Honore to twit reporter)
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To: jwalsh07
Forget lying, this is simply stupidity. Now you're arguing that Christian Creationists are imposing Deism on public school students. Your argument is breathtaking in its lunacy.

That is their claim, not mine! THEY are the ones that decided to sell off their own religious tenets by claiming that it wasn't their Christian God, but some anonymous higher power, that acted as the designer! And how DARE you denigrate my religion with terms such as 'stupidity' and 'lunacy'! I respect your choice of religion; you show no such character! Bigot!

You don't seem to understand that motives are non-justiciable. Why is that?

You do yourself a disservice by showing absolute ignorance regarding the weight of motive in a courtroom. That is all I have to say on that as far as the legal case goes. But how about in your heart? Do you excuse their motives because you like what they are saying? Does that not make you an accomplice to their deception?

That's what school boards do in the American Federalist system. Local school boards tell teachers what to teach. You with me here?

It is not the practice of setting policy that is the problem, but this specific policy in question.

Well, by all means, call Farhrenheit 451, a book needs burning. The book is not taught, it is not in the classroom and thus you have made another false assertion. False assertions win no arguments and put no gold stars on your forehead.

You rationalize the lie by telling yourself that they don't actually put the book in the students' hands, but their intent is clear. They first undermine the scientific teachings, then propose an alternative and endorse a text. It is undeniably suggestive guidance that relies on, and preys upon, the curiosity and trust of an authority figure that is an innate part of human nature. It is a despicable tactic of deceit and manipulation. And you embrace it, crying out that those who would dare to make this claim are the liars to hide from it yourself.

What I see as non virtuous is faux conservatives driven by their science influenced ideology willing to trash the Constitution and the powers of locals. That would be you. You don't want your kids in that school, move. You want school board members who won't challenge scientific dogma, vote them out. But keep the feds the hell out of my towns business. Clear enough for you?

Yeah, how dare us 'faux conservatives' be appalled that theocrats are hijacking science, the schools, and indeed even the Constitution that was meant to keep their authoritarian power in check, in a assault on our freedoms! Your claims pervert the core of our right to be free from controlling religious power-mongers in order to deliver us up to this very fate! You want the fed to stay out of your town's business? Then keep them the hell out of my religious rights!

LOL, you can't help yourself, you are what you claim anybody who disagrees with you is, a damn liar. I belive that's called projection.

Calling me a liar because I have pointed out that others are is not a defense, it is a dodge. You cannot refute my claim so you attack it. Come up with something better than what amounts to 'Oh, yeah? Well you're a liar too!'

70 posted on 09/27/2005 2:15:37 PM PDT by Antonello
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