[Vive ut Vivas]

Darwin didn't invent evolution or atheism. I'm sure there were atheists before Darwin

But you claimed that all atheists are evolutionists. Evolution didn't come up as a theory until Darwin, so atheists pre-Darwin couldn't have been evolutionists.

It doesn't matter to me what Dawkins or Gould say. You're still wrong. Atheism is not dependent on any knowledge of science whatsoever, just a lack of belief in gods.

Does anyone here disagree with the proposition that the idea that the universe is not designed is tantamount to atheism?

Yes.

[Diamond]

Evolution didn't come up as a theory until Darwin

That is simply not true.

Atheism is not dependent on any knowledge of science whatsoever, just a lack of belief in gods.

I don't believe in gods either and I'm not an atheist. But ontologically speaking, either the universe is eternal or it isn't. It is either the result of Intelligent purpose or it isn't. If it is not eternal then it had a beginning and then the question is, what is the sufficient cause of it? There are only a few possiblities. What choice other than some materialist explantion does a good atheist have to try to account for the existence of the universe?

Someone might be a practical atheist and may never have given the issue a thought, but I'm referring to the problem itself, not anyone's lack of thought about it.

Cordially,