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To: ZULU
I thought Miller was stating that intellignet design means that God created organisms in their current physical state and no changes in form or substance occurred ovr the millenia.

Upon re-reading your original statement...

If intelligent design means that a Divine Creator put in effect the laws of evolution and biology and somehow directed the evolutionary process to produce an ultimate product, man, I can accept it. As a matter of fact, that is what I believe.

... that is a little different than what Miller believes. He says in his book that God created the universe & its laws, and waited for a living organism to develop that had the ability to appreciate Him. This is what's properly meant by "made in His image". Whichever kind of living organism came along that was intelligent enough to begin to understand & appreciate God, that's the species that God would interact with. In this sense, God was eager & prepared to be pleasantly surprised by His creation.

The point I was trying to make is that I'm not sure what the intelligent design people are stating verus what the creationists are stating.

Well, they try so hard to be big-tent creationists, one can never really pin them down. Was the designing done at several points along the evolutionary path? Or was it done at the beginning when He designed the physical laws & constants? Or somewhere in between? Their answer is always "sure, why not."

136 posted on 09/27/2005 11:39:42 AM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: my sterling prose)
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To: jennyp

"He says in his book that God created the universe & its laws, and waited for a living organism to develop that had the ability to appreciate Him. This is what's properly meant by "made in His image". Whichever kind of living organism came along that was intelligent enough to begin to understand & appreciate God, that's the species that God would interact with. In this sense, God was eager & prepared to be pleasantly surprised by His creation."

So what about the passage that God made man in his image and likeness?? Doesn't that contradict mere chance creation of some creature which could appreciate Him?

And what about the immortal soul? If the latter was the case, did the soul as well as the body evolve, or is the soul somthing God created just for man?

Then, do animals have immortal souls?? Perhaps they do, but just like intelligence, they are qualitatively different from the soul of man.

This is really "heavy" stuff.


180 posted on 09/27/2005 12:18:25 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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