Biology expert testifies. Professor: Intelligent design is creationism.

York Dispatch ^ | 9/27/05 | Christina Kauffman

[js1138]

So basically your are saying the experiment in global genocide was a failure.

[Vive ut Vivas]

See my #479. The other stories/legends/myths were all corruptions of the actual history, rooted in fact but embellished into fiction.

But not yours!!

Think about it; if ancient legends had no factual basis whatsoever, why would early patriarchs have bothered handing them down? Were our earliest ancestor that starved for entertainment?

Am I dreaming? Are you seriously asking this?

[Vive ut Vivas]

No, actually it was righteous judgment rendered by a loving God Whom antediluvian humans managed to pi$$ off beyond the possibility of their own redemption!

If I were God, I would have just snapped my fingers and made everybody good again. But hey, different strokes for different folks. A flood leaves a more lasting impression I suppose.

[Coyoteman]

» Why would there be hundreds of stories all over the world if only one family survived?

Because that one family had hundreds, then thousands, then millions of descendants.

Not everybody kept in touch after awhile (especially after the Babel incident and they could not longer speak to each other).

Babel was somewhere about 4200 years ago (from an earlier post on these threads).

What about all of the radiocarbon dates I have that are older? I must have a hundred or more that are older than 4200 years ago (it could be more, I haven't counted lately).

Can you explain these?

And please don't give me the "Answers in Genesis" stock answer on this subject, as that does not appear to apply. I am using nice clean pieces of marine shell, with no contamination (I think the "Answers" samples were contaminated). I am very careful in my sample collection.

What about the samples I have over 6,000 years? And over 8,000 years?

[js1138]

All those infants and fetuses were beyond redemption. Nice.

[Vive ut Vivas]

What about the samples I have over 6,000 years? And over 8,000 years?

You're counting wrong. And using the wrong algebraic system. You need to be using the one that doesn't go above 6,000.

[Right Wing Professor]

Don't you

No. But that's because I know what Jefferson couldn't have known, that the story of Noah is merely a recycled Babylonian myth. There was no global flood. Human genetics are incompatible with descent from a single family 4000 years ago. The duck billed platypus couldn't have swum all the way from Turkey to Australia. And no one but a daft fool could seriously believe any of this is the literal truth.

[Coyoteman]

A flood leaves a more lasting impression I suppose.

But the geologic/archaeological history of most of the world does not support such a flood. You have a few cases of major floods, and that's it.

[Vive ut Vivas]

But the geologic/archaeological history of most of the world does not support such a flood.

Then the geologic/archaelogical history of the world is wrong. Duh.

[Vive ut Vivas]

Come to think of it, you must be a big fan of the UN! (i.e. the modern Babel)

Sure...whatever you say.

Uh, remind me not to stand too close to you in a thunderstorm! :-Þ

Why would God take you down along with me? You should stay close and enjoy the fireworks.

[claptrap]

Don't you realize we are the by-product of exploding nothingness.At one moment many many many eons ago
a particle of something or other exploded with a resounding whump ( my addition ) then huge masses of matter began rushing outward then like particles were drawn together ( by a mysterious force ) this is the same mysterious force which keeps electrons from skipping out on their neutrino centers which by all accounts they should since neutrinos don't generate gravity. Anyway its all self explanatory all sorts of complicated carbon compounds
encircle the earth and soon we have life and later more life
eventually there are plants and insects which help the plants reproduce then animals of all description and out of all that humanoids appear
Eventually though all these random particles will fly apart and everything will return to nothingness. Maybe someday the mystery force will
be identified, but a process called peer review might not let that happen. Anyway there is mountains of evidence I'm told that we all came from
complicated single cells which somehow had the DNA code for everything you see before you, Its all so clear and self explanatory you see.

[general_re]

Why would God take you down along with me?

Apparently the lesson to be learned from the story of Noah is that omnipotence is rather indiscriminate in its actions. Hey, the whole world got flooded because there were wicked men - by comparison, a believer or two getting caught in the cosmic bug zapper directed at you is no big deal ;)

[Oztrich Boy]

Which do you choose?

Only if you are a New Age believer, is it about choosing your reality.

[claptrap]

Casting pearls before swine again ?

[185JHP]

Experimenting and finding out that a 12 cylinder engine works better in a race car than an 8 cylinder engine didn't just "happen", either. A Designer was/is at work. The vile and weak evo theory is circling the drain, and a lot of the hoaxers know it - one reason they're getting so lathered up...