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To: HairOfTheDog

Most of the dogs being sold for $1000+ come from puppy mills. Fake papers don't impair the price, because nearly all the buyers are clueless. My boss bought a Maltese from a "home" breeder, who had a litter in a bedroom, with the alleged mother present -- $1200 as I recall -- no other dogs in sight or mentioned. He and his wife decided a couple of days later that they'd like a second one, and called to ask if there were any left, and were told two were left. They couldn't make it back until the next weekend, and when they arrived, lo and behold, no Maltese in sight, no Maltese puppies, no Maltese mother. But somehow a bunch of Yorkie puppies had appeared. They paid 4 figured for a Yorkie and went home happy -- with 2 puppy mill dogs that had no better health or genes than any pet shop or shelter dog that looked like a Maltese or Yorkies an whose real mothers were no doubt stuck in a tiny dirty cage at a mill, being forced to churn out puppies, and being promptly shot when they were so run down they couldn't make puppies anymore. Selling puppies is a huge, deceptive business, and it thrives on the fact that the AKC and its phony papers exist, and that by definition the average pet buyer has no idea how the industry works or how to tell a puppy mill puppy from one that's been bred responsibly. Most people are easily deceived by acts like the "breeder" my boss bought from. You see an ad, go to a nice suburban home, and are shown a litter of cute puppies and their alleged mother, comfortably ensconced in a luxury dog bed inside the house, and the seller shows you "papers" and tells you the mother is a family pet, and you think these aren't puppy mill dogs. But often they are.

I have no interest in putting additional regulations on BREEDING dogs -- there are plenty already and they're rarely enforced. But making it illegal to SELL dogs or cats for money will put an end to the breeding-for-profit business, which is the driver of the overbreeding problem. Most prospective buyers of expensive "purebred" dogs, aren't interested in getting involved in an illegal transaction. As for the handful of breeders who are serious about carefully breeding a small number of dogs of a particular breed, for the sake of a breed tradition, no one should stop them from breeding, but they should be willing (and required) to GIVE the puppies to carefully chosen homes, not sell them. Anybody who really cares about a particular breed of dogs will have at least one or two as pets. When you've already got mama dog, it costs very little to have a litter of puppies and get them their first round of shots. If they're not willing to swallow that expense once every year or two, or they're producing litters more often than that, then they're in it for the money, not for the dogs, and they're part of the problem.


174 posted on 09/27/2005 2:07:47 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You're dreaming. And they aren't even good dreams.


175 posted on 09/27/2005 2:19:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
PT Barnum is one of my favorite people in history. You are right, there are some very gullible people in society.

I can't tell you, how many people I've had say, "I just want a pet". They then go out and buy from a place like this:

http://wizardofclaws.com/index.htm

You want your toes curled? Go to the references page, and look at the well-to-do people, famous people who are considered by some to be role models, who have bought these dogs.

People think, if it costs thousands of dollars (and is dressed in stupid little costumes, I guess) it must be good.

However, I disagree with you that ethical, responsible breeders should give pups away. Do you actually think people value a dog in which they have no investment?? NO animal shelter EVER gives a dog or cat away for free, because they know the person will treat it as garbage.

Do you think only people who are independently wealthy should have the privilege of breeding dogs??? Wealthy people sometimes make good breeders, sometimes they shouldn't be allowed to own a stuffed dog, much less be entrusted with breeding live ones.

Breeding dogs correctly takes money. X-rays for hip dysplasia, exams by certified canine opthamologists, and dog shows (the only place where a breeder can get objective experts to evaluate their breeding programs) are expensive.

It's been said there's money in dogs. Every ethical dog breeder has invested enough of it in the critters, so I guess the saying has merit.

176 posted on 09/27/2005 2:37:32 PM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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