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To: mike182d
Would you like a list of how many times the prophets and leaders of the Jewish people call them an "evil" generation or an "evil" people for rejecting God's covenant?

How convenient that in your mind, HaShem simply says 'never mind' and lets you break it.

As for Augustine praising the Jews for faithfulness to the Law, you are wrong. He praises them for being faithful to what He saw the 'Law' to be, a sort of retro-active 'Law of Christ'. The fact is, the Jews throughout the past 2,000 have been more faithful to the Law than Christians have... so did G-d change His mind?
170 posted on 09/29/2005 5:29:28 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft
My simple point is that when St. Augustine and the early Christians spoke against the Jewish people, its in the same vain as Moses, David, or the Prophets would. It is not "anti-semetic" in the Nazi sense of the word. Granted, some got carried away in their zeal, but so did some of the Jewish prophets in speaking against the faithless Jews.

The fact is, the Jews throughout the past 2,000 have been more faithful to the Law than Christians have... so did G-d change His mind?

You're dealing with an entirely different theological issue here.

Consider the following:
When you enroll in a University, there are certain laws governing your development and academic achievements. When you graduate, you have succesfully fullfilled all the duties and obligations required of the University and now have your degree. However, upon receiving your degree, even though you are not obligated to follow all the laws of the University, you can't leave behind the formation attained by those laws or waste what you've received in the diploma.

The relationship between God's New and Old Covenants are not a matter of God "changing his mind" but rather part of his larger plan in sanctifying and redeeming the whole of the human race from their fallen state that can be viewed in similar light as the University analogy. As Christ says: "I have not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it." Basically, Christians are not bound to sacrifice lambs and place the blood on their doors at Passover because Christ is the "diploma" of the Law, so to speak. With His fulfillment, we are no longer required to do all that the "old" law required while at the same time applying the formation achieved by implementing the Law into our new life in Him.

This topic is immense, and probably shouldn't be discussed here, but that's an overly simplistic summation of the Old and New Covenant's relation to each other in the presence of an eternal, unchanging God.
171 posted on 09/29/2005 6:02:43 PM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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