[nonliberal]

I am seeing the same cult of personality developing around Guliani as there is around Bush. Guliani is anti-gun, pro-homo, and pro-abortion.

[GianniV]

Good points - supporting infanticide and gun control are not going to cut it. Also - the guy clearly cheated on his wife - think the liberals will bring that up?

He was a great mayor, but no way can he ever be President.

[veronica]

I am seeing the same cult of personality developing around Guliani as there is around Bush.

If that means Rudy is a two-term Prez, very cool!

Rudy would be good for America, good for the world, and good for the Jews. :)

[justshutupandtakeit]

You are "seeing" a fantasy of your own imagining. There is no Cult of Personality here and making that ridiculous claim just shows you don't know what one really is.

Guiliani is a leader who can get things done and that is what the Executive branch is supposed to be. He has tackled extremely difficult problems successfully: cleaning up and making safer NYC (which many considered impossible) and attacking the Mob. There is no potential candidate with equivalent credentials.

[Kenny Bunk]

Giuliani is anti-gun, pro-homo, and pro-abortion.

Embarassing ain't it? Tellya another dirty little secret? Rudy ain't exactly a red-nosed reindeer when it comes to adventurous interactions with the opposite sex. He's also a "my way or the highway" kinda guy, with a petty jealous streak about who gets credit for what. In fact he drove out the best police chief NYC ever had because the guy was getting kinda famous.

Yo, Rudy, love ya babe. Take a friggin' hike ... or a FEMA job.

[Sabramerican]

Guliani is .., pro-homo, and pro-abortion.

So much so that he is going to have government agencies figure out a way for two men to conceive just so that he can then force an abortion. /S

[HitmanLV]

Here's the major problem I find with that posture.

Since 911, many conservatives have taken the posture that national security and the prosecution of the war are the most important issues. And they are. In doing so, they have chided liberals and democrats on their pursuit of social issues important to them in this war period. Stuff like same-sex marriage, for example: part of our side's argument is to put that stuff on the backburner and in the interest of unity, recognize that the war is paramount.

Now comes a natural leader on the GOP side who is well suited to leading the next phases of the war. But some on our side don't follow the mandate they set for the liberal types. NOW social issues become important to us.

The truth is that Congress won't be confiscating guns under a Rudy presidency, and abortion won't become illegal between 2009-2013, or 2009-2017 no matter who is in office.

'Pro Homo' is an odd choice of words: the president has had no say in national policy regarding same sex marriage, except calling for a constitutional amendment. Even the liberal Clinton signed the (what will likely be unconstitutional) Defense of Marriage Act. If it bothers you that Rudy knows some people who are homosexual, well there's nothing notably 'conservative' about having that opinion. Do some quiet reflection - if you want to preserve the definition of marriage that will find you within a broad consensus; if you want to be mean to gay people, you will find yourself much lonelier.

So it's our turn to put up or shut up. It's time for our side to put some of the social issues we find important (not all of them) in the best interest of prosecuting the wars.

If we don't, we are phonies and full of it.

[NeoCaveman]

Guiliani also endorsed Mario Cuomo for governor in 1994.

[ZULU]

He is also pro-illegal invader.

I'm sick and tired of Republicans and conservatives eulogizing a man who represents those very "values" they ostensibly reject.

I will NEVER vote for Giuliani for President - PERIOD.

[finnigan2]

"Guliani is anti-gun, pro-homo, and pro-abortion."

- Listen my friend, if Hitlery can be painted as, "moving to the center" after throwing a few meaningless verbal crumbs to the media, then Guliani should be able to qualify his position on guns, homo's and abortion in such a way as to mollify all but the barking moonbat fringe of the Republican Party. Nobody ever accused him of being stupid or lacking in eloquence and I'm sure that if he comes out against partial birth abortion, full civil rights but not marriage rights for homos and if he paints gun control as a low priority on his "to do" list, then I think he can take the rank and file with him and probably a lot of moderate democrats as well. Especially if he's shrewd enough to pick Condi as his VP running mate.