Posted on 09/27/2005 6:37:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone
Show me where he supports gay marriage.
those gun laws were in place in NYC long before Rudy got there. you talk as if his term as mayor involved some massive "gun roundup" agenda from legal gun owners. nothing like that happened, he simply enforced the gun laws that were on the books to lower the crime rate.
I don't think so Bernie Kerik was investigated BIG TIME by the RUDY HATERS in NYC! Believe me the NY Daily News and the NY Slimes covered it all. They slobbered all over it.
Saw this one coming.
I still think Hildy is going to somehow insert herself to the NY Gov race.
"Could be an interesting race if it were him and hildy going at it in 2008."
Ill be pulling for Clinton to win - Id rather know my enemy than a two faced back stabbing RINO liar like Gulianni. We dont need anymore RINOs. RINOs like Bush and McCain and Gullianni are the reason why the republican base is so pissed off right now - they are spending is out of control, they could care less about the homeland, they support leftest crap like diversity by race, gender and sexual orientatiion (not ideas), etc...
LOL What? who me? Nah! LOL ;-)
Okay, you are a liberal. That explains your position. I am not. There is very little difference of substance between Hillary and Rudy. So, if that's the way the GOP wants to go, then I suggest they stop pretending they are conservative and just merge with the Democrats. That way, we true conservatives can launch our own party.
While you are right that the government cannot force moralilty on people, however, a leader's morals and character quite obviously matter a great deal. Only a moral midget would believe otherwise.
I supported GWB in 2000 and 2004. I vounteered, I traveleed, etc, however, I firmly of the belief that the country can not withstand eight more years of the same as we have had.
Who gives a wit about what the President feels about abortion? Unless you change the laws and minds of the people. Nothing will change as it hasn't for years.
GWB is no different than Kerry would have been save for a few issues. We need conservative fiscally responsible people who come from outside the politcal class. No more Doles, Clintons, Bushes, Kerry's, Gores, enough!
You really think so? You think she's too scared to run for president and lose and maybe thinks she can win as Governor?
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Hillary would need all the voter fraud that was available before in order to win. Yes, there are still areas that need cleaning up but it is NOTHING like before.
She knows she can't win Pres.
Rudy, will be a HARD one to counter. He did do an outstanding job with WTC disaster.
He did a lot of clean up in NYC before 9/11 also.
I'm afraid of who's pocket he is in because of his gun, homo, abortion and animal rights views.
Pointing those issues out in a campaign will discredit the conservatives because the average citizen isn't aware of all the lib payoffs.
Guiliani also endorsed Mario Cuomo for governor in 1994.
good point.
and don't judge what ideals Rudy would bring as president - to positions he had to take as mayor of a very liberal US city. The idea that Rudy would pursue an active agenda of more abortion, 2nd amendment dissolution, and gay marriage laws as president - is ludicrous.
I remember the Dinkin days and New York was flat out a dangerous place to be. It was lawsless.
Rudy was not perfect, but I think maybe he is worth a serious consideration. The best part is that some of these people have no alternitive who can win and are otherwise delusional as to the reality of electoral politics.
>>>LOL What? who me? Nah! LOL ;-)
I had posted this over at our FR Locale. I was bumping your thread but pinging Coleus and Old Friend.
and Ronald Reagan was a member of the Democratic Party years ago.
Changing the hearts and minds of the people would be necessary if this were a direct democracy - which it isn't. Did the liberals change hearts and minds before they found a phanton right of privacy in the Constitution and overturned all State bans on abortion? Nope. In a Republic, the leaders are expected to LEAD and govern righteously as a "representative" of the people, regardless of the consequences or backlash. Bush has failed the test miserably. He says he is a Christian but hardly leads like one. You may not care if 40 million persons have been murdered in 30 years, but God does. Right and wrong may not matter to you, but they matter to Him. He hates the shedding of innocent blood, and unless America stops this hideous practice, this country will be end up on the ash-heap of history. It's already circling the drain...
All I know is that it is going to be a very interesting race this time. Very interesting indeed. The country has changed alot since Bush ran in 2000. Personally I will vote for whomever wins the Republican nomination.
Spitzer has the NY gov position locked up.
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