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NEW ORLEANS: THE WAGES OF SOCIALISM
Sierra Times ^ | 9/27/2005 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:18:50 AM PDT by ElCapusto

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To: rdb3
WOW, that is f'ed up to say the least. I never saw that. I joined 9/2/04 a few months after that was posted. They should be ashamed of themselves.
61 posted on 09/27/2005 9:54:52 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: John Robertson
"So think about it, and shut up. If you pop back with one more racist remark, I'm reporting you. And they'll kick you off."

I'm right behind you. There is no place on FR for that crap.

62 posted on 09/27/2005 9:56:28 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: The Toll

I don't think that qualifies as a true "false premise," but point taken. Of course, there are no true, perfect comparisons. Take a look at my 60.


63 posted on 09/27/2005 9:56:42 AM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Glad you got my back. Thanks.


64 posted on 09/27/2005 9:57:45 AM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: John Robertson

No problem.


65 posted on 09/27/2005 9:59:19 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: John Robertson

She's not the only one. We work hard enough fighting the slanderous accusations from the left. We don't need idiots hiding behind us and lobbing race-bombs in our name.


66 posted on 09/27/2005 10:01:09 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Thanks to you, too.

Safe travel. (Same to jerseybikerchick...forgot to mention it).


67 posted on 09/27/2005 10:04:06 AM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: John Robertson
My point being that the author wrongly claims the areas are similar in ethnicity and then goes on to try to use that as one plank in his argument. I think it would be more accurate to say that the "you owe me" attitude is even more prevalent in an ethnically distilled environment when everyone reinforces each others beliefs. The black folks in the suburbs (where social programs still exist) do not appear to suffer this poison. Perhaps that is why they are not in the ghetto, physically or mentally.
68 posted on 09/27/2005 10:18:04 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rdb3

Great site - thanks.

Another great insight on how the left works in the US is Horowitz's autobiography - "Radical Son".


69 posted on 09/27/2005 10:25:43 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Michamilton
I just paraphrased what these hippies were telling me. I was arguing why affirmative action/welfare entitlement is reverse racism and that is the response I got.

They see blacks as disabled/disadvantaged from birth so they want to throw money at them.
70 posted on 09/27/2005 11:02:07 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: ElCapusto
Biloxi and the rural areas of costal Louisiana and Mississippi have similar ethnic makeup

Not true:

Biloxi:

White - 36177 - 71.43%
Black or African American - 9643 - 19.04%
American Indian and Alaska Native - 248 - 0.49%
Asian - 2590 - 5.11%

New Orleans:

White - 135956 - 28.05%
Black or African American - 325947 - 67.25%
American Indian and Alaska Native - 991 - 0.2%
Asian - 10972 - 2.26%

One of several questionable statements or concepts in this opinion piece, such as When Katrina hit, about 1,000 of New Orleans 1,500 police officers deserted their posts.

Welfare debilitates, no one is arguing with that, but what really motivated these looters was a sense of racial grievance, a fact that the author hints at but doesn't quite say. Such a sense of racial grievance would probably be present among blacks in any case but what really allows it break out so often and so virulently is its promotion by the liberal establishment. Black thugs and the black underclass are the physical and cultural stormtroopers of the left. Much black behavior, from the antics of so-called leaders like the Black Congressional Caucus to the baggy-pantsed-sideways-baseball-capped morons on the street should be mocked and ridiculed in the media, and would be if they were white. Had rap been non-black it would have been mocked out of existence by now. (All these things are manifestations of black separatism, BTW.) Instead this behavior prospers because it's treated with respect by the liberal establishment, and it's treated with respect not on its merits but because it is valuable to that establishment as a political, cultural and even physical weapon. That is what is important to understand.

71 posted on 09/27/2005 11:39:09 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: jordan8
...what really motivated these looters was a sense of racial grievance...

How utterly ridiculous.

Looters are criminals who deserved to be shot on sight.

Racial grievance? Hardly. It appears that you weigh heavily in on the side of the apologist leftists.

72 posted on 09/27/2005 2:02:41 PM PDT by ElCapusto (For ENGLISH, press one.)
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To: Pessimist
As New Orleans is physically rebuilt, this political economy of poverty must be demolished"

I don't believe this sentence at all.

Trillions have been spent on the phony "War on Poverty" initiated by the evil Lyndon Bird and to no avail.

That ridiculous spending program has increased the base of low-lives who lay around all day waiting for the next goobermint check.

As I've said often, there is no father as he has been replaced by the goobermint handouts.

The Federal government rebuilding New Orleans is not constitutional in any way shape or form.

The tragedy of Katrina pinpointed the real problems: state and local DemocRAT government is bankrupt and worthless.

73 posted on 09/27/2005 2:11:15 PM PDT by ElCapusto (For ENGLISH, press one.)
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To: ElCapusto

I agree w/ you completely.

Similarly, the other day I read an article in the WSJ about how West Germany has poured something like 1.47 trillion into East Germany since reunification about 15 years ago. That's about 100 bil / year. And the result? 18% unemployment in the east couple w/ growing calls for greater gvt services and a return to communism.

That's why it kiils me when our current crop of RINOs throws money at the situation in hopes it will buy them political support. It wont.


74 posted on 09/28/2005 9:56:15 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: ElCapusto
The father's place at the table has been taken over by the federal government.

And we saw what kind of "children" Ol' Daddy Government raised....

75 posted on 09/28/2005 9:59:22 AM PDT by Johnny Crab (Who DAT says dem busses ain't good enough? They're not just FOR THE CHILDREN....)
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To: ElCapusto
Millions of dollars have been sent to New Orleans for decades, but they were siphoned off to various corrupt activities rather than being used to reinforce levies or build up emergency services.

Should be billions of dollars.

76 posted on 09/28/2005 10:12:38 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ElCapusto
The city police department must be reformed from top to bottom starting with the termination of those who deserted..."

Based upon today's revelations, termination of the deserting police officers should be pretty easy since a lot of them never existed in the first place. Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Cosmo Krammer has been showing up for work every day at an office where he has never been actually hired. After a couple of weeks, he is fired for incompetence. Cosmo says something like, "You can't fire me because I really don't even work here," and his boss responds, "That's what makes this so diificult."

77 posted on 09/28/2005 10:15:41 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Ima Lurker

because the vast majority of them work under the table, selling drugs or are professional parents (pop out more children to get more welfare money).
my favourite scam: people who go into a store and spend their food stamps on the cheapest pop they can get, dump it on the sidewalk then turn around and get cash from the deposits.


78 posted on 09/28/2005 10:31:38 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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