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FEMA to reimburse Churches( about to bust Vanity )
Me | 09/27/2005 | me

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:14:06 AM PDT by devane617

Just heard on CNBC Squak Box that FEMA has decided it will reimburse churches for providing for hurricane evacuees. My first thought is how corrupt churches are in certain communities. What will be the "proof" needed by FEMA to make payment? I suspect ligit lists of evacuees are already floating around churches. Provide the list to FEMA and get money for helping 3000 people in your one-room country church.

This is exactly the type of situation I was affraid would happen. No way the Feds can keep this situation from getting out of hand. No amount of oversite will stop massive fraud as we have never seen.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: al; chruch; fl; hurricane; katrina; la; ms; religion; rita; tx

1 posted on 09/27/2005 6:14:08 AM PDT by devane617
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To: devane617

the ACLU is already on top of this.


2 posted on 09/27/2005 6:21:02 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: devane617

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1491972/posts


3 posted on 09/27/2005 6:21:27 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: devane617
FEMA has decided it will reimburse churches

Why? Lots of people donated time and money to help. Should FEMA reimburse me for the $100 I gave to the Red Cross or the medical supplies I donated to the convoy of loaned trucks filled with emergency supplies delivered by volunteers from my city? I think FEMA is opening Pandora's box by deciding to reimburse churches.

4 posted on 09/27/2005 6:54:50 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: devane617

So by your estimation all churches are corrupt, money-grubbing entities, actively seeking ways to defraud money from FEMA?

Interesting perspective. I don't know what churches you've been exposed to, but I can assure you they are not *all* like that.


5 posted on 09/27/2005 7:13:01 AM PDT by dfwright (A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.)
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To: devane617
My first thought is how corrupt churches are in certain communities.

You can, no doubt, provide verification for this "corruption" and also warn us about the "certain communities" in question lest some of the more gullible amongst us be taken in.

Nevertheless, despite our obvious difference of opinion concerning this "corruption", I see no reason for FEMA to reimburse churches for simply carrying out part of their ministry.

6 posted on 09/27/2005 7:18:14 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
"simply carrying out part of their ministry."
7 posted on 09/27/2005 8:12:39 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: devane617
My first thought is how corrupt churches are in certain communities.

Document your accusation.

or...

  1. Apologize to all church-atending folks here for your slander.

  2. STFU!!!

8 posted on 09/27/2005 9:53:43 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: devane617

lol yeah those evil small town churches. You really have to watch out for them.

boo


9 posted on 09/27/2005 10:04:49 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: TXnMA
Jim and Tammy-Faye, Robert Tilton, come to mind as corrupt. Next, I think of the campaigning that goes on for Dim candidates every election cycle in many churches.
10 posted on 09/27/2005 10:06:56 AM PDT by devane617
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To: devane617
My first thought is how corrupt churches are in certain communities.

Jim and Tammy-Faye, Robert Tilton, come to mind as corrupt.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

'Stuck on stupid', are you?

You had to go back a decade or two to dredge up those "church" scam artists.

Are you now going to invoke the Clintonian, "It all depends on what the definition of 'are' is..."?

Tread carefully. You are tarring a huge population of very good Americans -- with a stupidly broad brush...

11 posted on 09/27/2005 10:24:19 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: TXnMA

There are none so blind as those who will not see...


12 posted on 09/27/2005 10:28:58 AM PDT by devane617
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To: dfwright
Interesting perspective.

Except for the fact that he never said anything close to that.

13 posted on 09/27/2005 5:20:00 PM PDT by TankerKC (Done with the NFL..)
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To: devane617

Mo' walking around money for some so called Revs


14 posted on 09/27/2005 5:21:35 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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Many here took my post in a way that was not intended. I think you caught on to the gist. I was referring to the Rev in Tampa that ripped the national org of several millions, spent time in jail, and the recent Rev here in the Dallas area that has been arrested several times for drugging a few female members and having sex. I suspect these guys would not have a problem taking FEMA money under false pretenses.
15 posted on 09/27/2005 5:38:27 PM PDT by devane617
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There's been so many stories of FEMA handing out mad money that even legitimate Reverend s can be tempted. Here in Florida in one hurricane many Miami residents got FEMA money by lying about damaged property and the hurricane missed Dade County, was north of it. FEMA paid for burials for deaths totally unconnected with last years hurricanes.


16 posted on 09/27/2005 6:14:49 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

Exactly. I was living there last year when the FEMA scam took place in S. FL. I seemed to have stired the emotions of a few well meaning Church folks. That was not my intent. However, FEMA is handing out money here in DFW, TX as if they have a printing press.


17 posted on 09/27/2005 6:17:20 PM PDT by devane617
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To: devane617
The Church is the Church. The mission of true religion is to minister to the less fortunate. The heart felt charity of the Churches would simply become a conduit for Federal Aid.Our Uncle's hands are already into too many areas of everyday life. Sorry, there is a real Church and State issue on the table.
18 posted on 09/28/2005 10:50:10 AM PDT by mict42
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To: devane617

A lot of those churches were asked to help provide shelter. Many of them went way out of their way to provide. Most of it was freely given by their parishiners but some of the expenses are more than we should expect them to absorb. You won't find churches adding on things like administration costs.


19 posted on 09/28/2005 10:54:16 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: devane617

I think we need MUCH more details.

I have no problem with this.

Churches have LARGE spaces and the ability to accomidate large groups of people and most have community halls which can be procured for more open space.

This is no different than having to pay after "procurement by necessity."

There is no reason to object.


20 posted on 09/28/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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