[saganite]

Pretty good recommendations. I personally prefer the Mossberg 12 gauge pump (18 1/2" barrel) for the home and my .357 is a Ruger sp 101, good for concealed carry. Just got a .270 Savage bolt action with the accu trigger for hunting.

I wouldn't touch a .454 Casull though. That's too much gun for the average gun owner and is really only needed for very special applications, like grizzly at close range. I much prefer a standard 1911 .45 which will be my next purchase. Since I can't afford a Kimber I've got my eye on a Springfield Arms milspec 1911 .45.

[BooBoo1000]

454 Causal, and 357 Mag are both a lot of gun for beginners, how about a Browning 9MM High Power, the cream of the 9MM's and easy to control.

[ElTianti]

Glock makes very nice .45s.

[Youngman442002]

I am a survivalist weirdo.....and I think the New Orleans fiasco proved us right..who are you going to rely on..the government to help you out ...our yourself...I choose myself....I am much smarter than a government bureaucrat.....I am SMART enough to get out of Dodge if I need to...or if I was going to stay...buy enough food, water, and supplies to survive...and not to do what the idiots did in New Orleans...and don't answer back that they were poor....they were DUMB...period..and evolution works....

[papertyger]

Since I can't afford a Kimber...

Been there, done that. You're not missing anything, and saving money, to boot!

[Conspiracy Guy]

Bingo.

[July 4th]

my .357 is a Ruger sp 101

Mine too. I love it.