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Ninth-grader punished for asking Army pilot sensitive question
The State ^ | September 23, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/27/2005 4:33:37 AM PDT by billorites

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To: billorites
Oh my...the kid has to apologize and miss future school assemblies! The horror! Quick, someone call a lawyer!

How old is the boy? Shouldn't he know that a question, referencing the possible rape of the guest speaker was out of place in a public forum?

Just my thoughts, maybe this kid is just a smarta$$ and goes that extra mile with erudite behavior constantly and this time both the school and its guest were embarassed by his behavior. There are teenagers who say/do things just for the shock value and attention that they draw. I would hazard to guess that this boy falls into that more so than a serious inquiry of prisoner of war status in Somalia. Just my two cents...

41 posted on 09/27/2005 5:06:11 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Shiny things distract me :))
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To: billorites
As a former child I can say that his question was: a) In line with the kinds of violent, lurid thoughts that get instilled in boys that age; b)In line with the need of some of those boys to push the envelope in front of their peers by trying to embarrass the guest or prove that he is bold enough to ask the hard questions; and c)Definitely out of line for the time and place in which it was asked.

The soldier was absolutely right in his answer, whether it happened or not. To answer, even in the negative, would have honored the question.

42 posted on 09/27/2005 5:07:22 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (The best things happen just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Prodigal Son

It was a bit uncouth, but nothing to be punished for.
I agree. Seems a bit tasteless but at the end of the day, if the kid wants to know- what's he supposed to do and who else can he ask? I can't see punishing the kid for asking.

Ask on the side or write a letter. One doesn't blindside people in a public forum. Better to learn some tact now then while on the job.


43 posted on 09/27/2005 5:08:02 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: jimbo123

"The kid asked the question and Durant declined to answer. The truth came out and the assistant principal decided to punish the kid for exposing the truth about muslims"

The question about Muslims or Durant's experience?


44 posted on 09/27/2005 5:09:29 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: cyborg

I have raised three sons and have been around lots of of kids. I am almost positive he asked that question because he thought it would funny to his like minded peers. If one of my boys had asked a question like that, I would have not been a very supportive parent.


45 posted on 09/27/2005 5:11:02 AM PDT by Kimmers (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: The Phantom FReeper

"The fascination of some people with the intensely personal and private is indicative of our loss of manners and respect for others."

Absolutely.

And as you had mentioned, there is this morbid curiosity of those who have no military or combat experience. Most are not malicious when asking the question; just incredibly stupid and rude.


46 posted on 09/27/2005 5:11:28 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Dudoight
Exactly right.

"Boxers or briefs?" would have been bad enough. His question was totally out of line.

The answer to "Were you mistreated?" or "Were you treated decently as a prisoner of war?" would have given the student all he needed to know.

47 posted on 09/27/2005 5:12:38 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: The Phantom FReeper

Ya know, I just realized it was MS and not HS. Changes things a bit but should he be punished for asking?


48 posted on 09/27/2005 5:14:53 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Prodigal Son

If he was indeed raped, then a follow up question as to the number of times, how many different men raped him, whether he was forced to perform oral sex, how many times, and other details would also have been tastless, but hey, if the kid wants to know.


49 posted on 09/27/2005 5:15:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Kimmers

I agree. If any of my sons pulled a stunt like this (and look at my previous post...I think this is all about being a smarta$$ and impressing his fellow 9th graders) I would discipline my son. Not search out the Associated Press.


50 posted on 09/27/2005 5:17:09 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Shiny things distract me :))
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To: AppyPappy

When you open the floor to questions you leave yourself open.


51 posted on 09/27/2005 5:19:16 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: billorites
This kid was resorting to potty/bar humor for shock affect or a laugh. Reminds me of a scene in the movie "Independence Day". The guys in the bar asked the crazy crop duster pilot (who claimed he had been abducted by aliens): "When you were abducted, did they perform sexual experiments on you"? And they all laughed.
52 posted on 09/27/2005 5:20:21 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Sensei Ern

By the ninth grade he's been listening/watching 14 years of tens of thousands of homosexual experiences a year on TV.


53 posted on 09/27/2005 5:21:04 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Yes, and when an inappropriate question is asked, you discipline the offender and the rest of the student body 'learns' by the example.


54 posted on 09/27/2005 5:21:17 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Shiny things distract me :))
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To: The Phantom FReeper

I have a friend who's a combat veteran. He came to see my Cub Scouts to share about his adventures in the middle east. While he held their absolute attention for 2 hours, amazingly not one of them asked the "how many have you killed" question.


55 posted on 09/27/2005 5:21:34 AM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: leadpenny

I don't consider having to apologize to Durant a punishment. That's an exercise in learning manners, which this child sorely needs.

As far as not being allowed to attend future school assemblies...I'm not decided on that. Allowing him to attend future assemblies would provide him with an opportunity to exercise the manners that one would hope he has learned. However, the child likely also needs to learn that with actions, come consequences...and that if he wants to be treated like a grown-up and ask grown-up questions, then he has to be able to accept grown-up consequences.


56 posted on 09/27/2005 5:23:23 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: The Phantom FReeper
The student was, what, thirteen or fourteen? He's old enough to know better.

I have a 14 year old son. He should know better, but the thing in his head that makes you act as you know you should has not matured in him. Or most of his friends.

The speaker answered appropriately. Kid was inappropriate, but immature. He needed a talking to, not necessarily a banishment from assembly.

BTW, my son's summer reading book before starting HS was a book called Speak about a girl who was raped at a party just before she started freshman year in hs. No one knows she was raped at the party and she is ostracized for having called the police who broke up the party. The climax of the book is when she finally tells what happened to her after almost a year holding it in. Wonder if they had the same reading list?

57 posted on 09/27/2005 5:23:34 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Just my thoughts, maybe this kid is just a smarta$$ and goes that extra mile with erudite behavior constantly and this time both the school and its guest were embarassed by his behavior. There are teenagers who say/do things just for the shock value and attention that they draw.


58 posted on 09/27/2005 5:23:50 AM PDT by aumrl (U GOT MY VOTE)
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To: cyclotic

Not surprising...most children who enter Cub Scouts are raised in families that value decency and appropriate behavior.


59 posted on 09/27/2005 5:25:08 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: billorites
"He asked a fair, hard-balled question," said Phil's dad, Jon Sannes. "I don't know why he's being punished."

Parents like this, who turn their kids imaginary "rights" into media events, should be beaten with bicycle chains.

60 posted on 09/27/2005 5:25:47 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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