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To: Lando Lincoln
No the answer does not lie with congress. Yes in ancient history in the 70s the CIA was neutered by commies in congress. No that is not a sufficient explanation for the pathetic underperformance of the CIA in recent times. They suck, they need a dramatic overhaul, and pointing finger elsewhere and giving CYA excuses are not going to cut it.

The CIA opposed the Iraq was on the grounds that we'd all get gassed. You can't get more wrong than that.

Every regime targeting attempt with all the fanfare during the active phase of the war turned out to be a complete crock. The CIA paid all its supposed internal Iraqi informants for lies that probably got us to kill civilians.

We had zero in the way of coup options in Iraq. We have zero in the way of coup options in North Korea. We have zero in the way of coup options in Iran. In Iran, revolution is the best possible outcome, and the CIA doesn't know word one about any of it. Chavez is making trouble and his was clearly amateur hour.

We don't know how close Iran is to nuclear weapons, and nobody on earth would believe anything we said about it even if we did know.

The CIA did not detect Dr. Khan's nuclear bazaar, as it brazenly operated from the soil of a US ally they worked with on the Afghan war, over decades. They were surprised at how far the Libyans were. They had no advanced warning of the Pakistani and India nuke test flurry.

A high school drop-out from California got to Bin Laden's inner circle within 2 years of signing up for Jihad. The CIA has a budget of billions, all national intel, its pick of brains, and hasn't got a single man inside AQ in over a decade of trying. That is, if it is trying.

We don't know where Bin Laden is. We don't know where Zawahiri is. Multi-million bounties for years and all national intel, yields squat.

We found out about the oil for food corruption of the UN and scores of Iraqi agents and paid operatives, from Iraqi files in Baghdad, not the CIA. We have yet to get the slightest further substantiation of said corruption from CIA sources. The president of France, Russian parliament members, British labor MPs, were all on the Iraqi payroll and the CIA told us nothing.

To this day we do not know the extent and nature of Russian and Chinese involvement with and encouragement of our WOT enemies on the one hand, and proliferation threats on the other. We see them flak for the latter diplomatically, we see them sell them arms, we see nuclear technology and dual use equipment being sent to them. But we get no direct info from the originating side.

The CIA have opposed the president, sought to undermine his policies, played games with domestic politicians and with reporters, verbally attacked US allies and smeared pro-US Iraqi democrats. They tried to support Baathists in Iraq, who are blowing our men up daily, and to undermine Sistani, who has worked with us to establish a moderate constitutional democracy.

They are as dumb as a bag of rocks and more loyal to the previous administration than to their own country. They couldn't find their backside with both hands. They recruit morons strained through ridiculous screening procedures that make a fetish of 50 year old pseudo-science, but can't translate Arabic documents or add three facts together. And this is not the fault of congress. Blaming 30 year old screw ups by somebody else will not get rid of last year's, by these clowns.

To start with we should want heads, and after that we should want performance.

15 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:38 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

great rant.


19 posted on 06/28/2006 8:01:01 PM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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