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If a RINO has the same colors as a Dem, has no real conservative underpinnings, such as Jim Jeffords or Collins, Snowe, or others, we can choose whether or not they are of any kind of value to us, and vote accordingly

In the states that elect Jim Jeffords, Collins, Snowe and others no conservative can be elected. The center in new England states is well to the left of the nation as a whole. A candidate for state office must get more than half the votes. That means in liberal states a Republican has to be to the left of the national center to even hope to win. The only reason to support them is if the Democrat wins he or she will be far much more left of center than the RINO. In those states the choices are far left or RINO. The same is true in very conservative states but from the opposite side. A Democrat in South Carolina has to be pretty conservative to win. For a Democrat to win in South Carolina he or she must be far to the right of Snowe.

Let me see if I can reach you with common sense.

About 18 states are liberal and about 18 states are conservative. 14 states are up for grabs... They are the home of the RINOs and DINOs.

At any given time there will be about 36 liberal Senators in the US senate. At the same time there will be about 36 conservative Senators. That leaves some combination of 28 RINOS and DINOS. In South Carolina you can elect a real Conservative. That can't be done in Maine. In New York Democrats can easily elect a Schumer. It is the way it is. In moderate states you get a Voinovich and Dewine. You could not elect a Jesse Helms in Ohio. You couldn't elect a Schumer in Ohio either. That is just the way it is. Read the election returns and learn.

RINO Voinovich in 2004 got 63 percent of the votes to Bush's lowly 51. Voinovich did not even campaign. Good solid RINOs don't have to campaign in Ohio. Bush worked his rump off to pull off a 51 to 49 win. Voinovich did nothing to win 63 percent of the votes. Ohio is RINO and DINO heaven. For the last 15 to 20 years the RINOs have ruled. But soon the DINOS will take over for a few years. That is just the way it is.

If the Democrats elect 20 DINOS and the Republicans only 8 RINOs the Democrats are pretty much in control of the Senate. They have the chairmanship of all senate committees. They are free to hold investigative witch hunts on any conservative Repubican they chose. If the Republicans elect 20 RINOS to the Democrats 8 DINOs they are in control of the Senate. Nat total control.. but it is a a lot better being 56 to 44 than 44 to 56. Since Republicans have nearly 20 RINOS the RINOs have real power. But that is the real world. Conservatives have to learn to win in the real world or forever lose. The party with the most ?INOs always wins out.

The same is true in the House. There are always about 150 true conservatives in the house and 150 true liberals. that leaves some combination of 135 RINOS and DINOS in the house. The party with the most ?INOs controls the house. The house rules are tough. When the Republicans hold the majority because they have the most RINOS the Conservatives rule the house. Ask Tom Delay or Nancy Pelosi how that works.

Barry Goldwater was the proponent of driving all the RINOs out of the house and Senate. He got it done in 1964.

In 1968 I interviewed LBJ. I asked him what he attributed his success at getting the Great Society passed. After all, I remarked, FDR had proposed all of the Great Society measures in the 30s and 40s and could not get them passed. LBJ had gotten it done. I asked him to what he attributed his success.

LBJ looked me in the eye and said, "I could not have done it with out Barry Goldwater's help" Barry got rid of all the moderate Republicans. That gave me an iron lock on the house and senate. With that lock the Great Society was easy.

LBJ clearly understood the value to the left of of far right purists driving the RINOs out of the party. LBJ understood the real world.

You must believe that conservatives can command a majority of votes. What part of it is impossible for 36 percent of the voters to cast 51 percent of the votes escapes you?

Barry Goldwater fixed it so that for 2 short years he commanded the presidency, the house and the senate with total liberal rule. It was a filibuster proof senate. There were few if any RINOS and the world belonged to the DINOs. WE have the legacy of the Great Society because Barry Goldwater shared your beliefs.

In the real world where both liberals and conservatives are a minority, the side that learns how to use the moderates to their advantage always wins.

That means you always have to give the moderates something they want in order to get something you want. Otherwise you get nothing but the status quo. And the status quo is the sum of FDR and LBJ.

To get the right to reject RINOS is the left's ultimate goal.

It is a wish to get even by blowing up the only possible road to victory.