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To: nopardons; Common Tator
First, too bad nopardons is frustrated in dealing with the other peoples perceptions. Her, so I've been informed, rebuttal always is, you're dumb, you haven't been here long enough, and be careful because I have the sharpest tongue on FR and proves it dozens of times a day.

She's on the 'right' but her style mimes Begala and Carville.

The "elite" as you call them, have always and ever "picked" the presidential candidates
My concept of 'elite' is the national committees and the million dollar donators along with the MSM.

Clinton. He may have won, but he didn't help the Dems any, in the long run.
Huh, 8 years in the WH, junior NY senator and possibly our next president. Wake up toots!

200 posted on 09/27/2005 7:34:24 AM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln
ducky, I am not "frustrated" at all, but you must be, since you never won a debate with me.

Where do you suppose that the phrase THE SMOKY BACK ROOM CAME FROM? It didn't originate in Jim Robinson's brain and he isn't using it in its true sense here.

For almost as long as this country has been having political conventions, to nominate the president ( and these same sort of people worked behind the scenes for ALL elected officials ), the "power brokers" would gather in a back room, jawing and bullying and trading favors, whilst smoking cigars, getting whom they wanted in. Both major parties did it.

This system broke down, in the Dem Party, when it fractured and the likes of Jesse Jackson and the like, began to broker the freak circus. In past times, Clinton would have been told to shut up, sit down, clean up his act, and wait his turn.

But, in '92, even though Clinton and his team thought that he WOULD lose, but looked at this run as a "dress rehearsal", he managed to make an end run around EVERYONE and with the help of those who bought into Ross Perot's crap ( and yes, Clinton DID use him !), Clinton won.

Yes, President Bush the elder ran a 1/2 hearted campaign, but without Perot, I do think that he would have won a squeaker.

You don't like my posting "style, toots, because I run rings around you. I don't "mime" ( misuse of the word...look up the definition ) Begala and Carville. I just hit you over the head with facts and logic.

It's YOU, who needs to "wake up", dear. :-)

214 posted on 09/27/2005 1:48:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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