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To: Reagan Man
When Reagan took office HR spending under Jimmah Carter was 53.4% of the budget. Over the next 8 years under Reagan, that spending was significantly reduced. In 1982= 52.1%, 1983=52.7%, 1984= 50.7%, 1985= 49.9%, 1986= 48.6%, 1987= 50.0%, 1988= 50.1%, 1989= 49.7%.

HR spending went up dramatically under Reagan.. It was that Defense spending went up even faster under Reagan reducing the percenage spent on HR but the HR dollars doubled under REAGAN.

Your figures are like my former wifes'. She excused increased spending on her clothes from 400 to 800 a month because she increased spending on jewelry from 400 to 2,000 a month. That was used to prove that her spending on clothes went from 50 percent of her budget to 16 percent of the budget... But she still doubled her spending on clothes.

One month while reducing her clothing expentitures to 20 percent of her budget she ran up $8,000 on my credit card.

Figures don't lie.. But Liars Figure


140 posted on 09/26/2005 11:14:07 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
CT debates RM. Wow. I don't think you're gonna like this.

>>>>HR spending went up dramatically under Reagan.

As a percentage of the budget, HR spending went down under Reagan. I posted the facts. Obviously, the facts mean nothing to you. If you ignore the facts, you ignore the truth.

>>>>It was that Defense spending went up even faster under Reagan reducing the percenage spent on HR but the HR dollars doubled under REAGAN.

That was Reagan's plan. Shift the money from HR to Defense and it worked. What's the problem?

>>>>Your figures are like my former wifes'.

Come on CT. Comparing your ex-wife's budget with the budget of the US shows you're being intellectually dishonest and using cute cliches in bold type because you have no way out, is downright pathetic.

188 posted on 09/27/2005 6:43:59 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("Mister President, members of Congress, complete the mission".)
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To: Common Tator
>>>>Your posted figures and fancy graphs failed to include entitlement spending.

Say what? I posted the data from OMB.gov. I gave you the links to OMB.gov. What more do you want? I can't force you to go there and check out the figures. That is your responsibility. One more time. Entitlement spending under Reagan went down during his Presidency.

When Reagan took office social welfare & entitlement spending, aka. HUMAN RESOURCES, as a percentage of the US budget under Jimmah Carter was 53.4% of the budget. Over the next 8 years under Reagan, that spending was significantly reduced. In 1982= 52.1%, 1983=52.7%, 1984= 50.7%, 1985= 49.9%, 1986= 48.6%, 1987= 50.0%, 1988= 50.1%, 1989= 49.7%.

In addition, by the end of Bush41`s term of office HR spending went from 49.4% in 1990 to 58.7% in 1993. This was my original point. Spending went way up during Bush41`s tenure, as did income tax rates. When Clinton entered office the stage was set for a huge tax increase and that is exactly what happened. You have selective memory CT. You only remember what you want to remember.

>>>>Reagan did not cut a penny off of the Welfare state. He Doubled it... In case you don't remember it was Bill Clinton who Cut Welfare.. NOT Reagan. Reagan increased it

Reagan shifted HR dollars to Defense. I clearly showed you that as a percentage of the budget, social welfare & entitlement spending went down under Reagan. That's one of the big reasons liberals hate Reagan so much. They take cheap shots at him for reducing social welfare and entitlement spending whenever they can. Now you're doing it too. Pathetic. And Clinton wasn't responsible for reforming welfare. It was the GOP Congress who held his feet to the fire and on the third attempt, got him to sign-off on welfare reform.

>>>>Who should we believe Reagan or YOU???

Rhetorical bait and switch. Again. I posted the data from OMB.gov. I gave you the links to OMB.gov. What more do you want? I can't force you to go there and check out the figures. That is your responsibility. One more time. Entitlement spending under Reagan went down during his Presidency. Period. The facts in this case don't lie.

>>>>Reagan Man found graphs that use the LBJ system of showing reduced spending for social programs... Don't include social entitlement numbers in your graph.

You're using the standard liberal tactic. If you repeat a lie often enough, people will think you're telling the truth. The graphs I posted came from CATO. A libertarian think tank who preaches fiscal conservatism.

>>>>By the way Reagan like Bush43 increased Medicare benefits.

With the perscription drug program, Bush43 created the largest federal increase in spending since Medicare itself was created. Reagan never did anything like that. NEVER!

195 posted on 09/27/2005 7:17:01 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("Mister President, members of Congress, complete the mission".)
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