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Lawsuit seeks removal of crosses from Las Cruces city logo
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| 9-24-05
| ap
Posted on 09/26/2005 2:01:21 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
LAS CRUCES, N.M. (AP) - The city of Las Cruces' official emblem has three crosses that a federal lawsuit alleges are unconstitutional religious symbols on public property.
The lawsuit, filed Sept. 16 in U.S. District Court in Albuquerque, seeks the removal of the crosses.
"The crosses serve no governmental purpose other than to disenfranchise and discredit non-Christian citizens," said the lawsuit filed by Paul F. Weinbaum, who lives in the Las Cruces area, and Martin J. Boyd of Las Cruces.
Defendants include city officials, city councilors, Mayor Bill Mattiace, District Attorney Susana Martinez, state Attorney General Patricia Madrid and Gov. Bill Richardson.
"We have had to defend ourselves before and we're ready to do it again," Mattiace said.
(Excerpt) Read more at freenewmexican.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aclu; city; cross; crosses; kooks; lascruces; lawsuit; logo; purge
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To: Rakkasan1
"The crosses serve no governmental purpose other than to disenfranchise and discredit non-Christian citizens," said the lawsuit filed by Paul F. Weinbaum, who lives in the Las Cruces area, and Martin J. Boyd of Las Cruces. No logo in any city or town anywhere serves any governmental purpose. If that's the basis for the suit, it should be thrown out, with extreme prejudice. The blood-sucking attorneys who filed it should be disbarred and run out of town on rails.
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posted on
09/26/2005 6:24:48 PM PDT
by
savedbygrace
("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
To: savedbygrace
They've got it exactly backwards. The standard is not serving a government purpose. The government is supposed to exist to serve the people.
"...to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."
Amendments IX and X to the U.S. Constitution are also relevant.
To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping.
What are they going to do about the name?
It's long past time to shut the ACLU down.
Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.
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posted on
09/26/2005 7:47:55 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
To: Rakkasan1
uh, "las cruces" means "the crosses", does it not?
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posted on
09/26/2005 7:48:47 PM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
To: Rakkasan1
Wait'll they hear about what Corpus Christi is in English!
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posted on
09/26/2005 7:49:36 PM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
To: Rakkasan1
This crap has got to stop. We need to bring RICO charges against the ACLU.
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posted on
09/26/2005 7:54:21 PM PDT
by
Nowhere Man
(Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
To: Rakkasan1
"The crosses serve no governmental purpose other than to disenfranchise and discredit non-Christian citizens,"
What if your city has a bear on its seal? Has it alienated all non-bear citizens?
How can this ludicrous claim possibly hold up in court? How can anyone prove they've been harmed by an image of a cross? I guess Satan's bothered by it: it's the symbol of his defeat.
I've gotta stop reading this stuff, it makes me too irritated.
67
posted on
09/27/2005 6:02:22 AM PDT
by
Zechariah_8_13
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: Republicus2001
in Los Angeles the new mayor is replacing religious names of saints from city maps. uhhh, I guess the need to change the name of the city as well!! Sin City??
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posted on
09/27/2005 6:06:32 AM PDT
by
An.American.Expatriate
(Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
To: Republicus2001
are you serious about LA or are you joking? and if not joking can you give a link please.
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:48:45 PM PST
by
MoS
To: Rakkasan1
Maybe they can force the city to change it's name while they're at it too!
After all, doesn't "Las Curces" mean "Those Crosses?" (or something like that?)
Mark
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posted on
11/14/2005 6:57:50 PM PST
by
MarkL
(I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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