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CA: Governor seeks help to finish what he started
Sacramento Bee ^ | September 25, 2005 | Arnold Schwarzenegger

Posted on 09/26/2005 1:24:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Elementary schools start with the fundamentals, the building blocks, the three R's: reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic. The California Comeback starts with its fundamentals, its building blocks, too. They are a different three R's: recovery, reform, rebuild.

When I took office 22 months ago, I had no illusions about how difficult the job would be, no illusions about what it would take to turn around a state $22 billion in debt. But in that time, we have accomplished the first R - recovery. We saved the state from bankruptcy, increasing state revenues $6 billion without raising taxes. We rolled back the unfair car tax increase, reduced workers' compensation insurance premiums 30 percent, created a positive business environment and brought huge numbers of jobs back to the state - more than 400,000.

You put your full faith and trust in me when you sent me to Sacramento to fix a broken political system. I was - and remain - determined to reach your goal. I knew there would be challenges, but I believed I could get Democrats and Republicans to work together. Initially, we did. We got a lot done, and we did it quickly.

I am proud of the economic recovery, just as I am proud of our other accomplishments: supporting stem cell research, victims' rights, the three-strikes law and environmental initiatives such as the hydrogen highway. I'm proud I set aside more land for public parks than any governor in California's history.

I also know that while meeting those challenges, I made some mistakes and learned many vital lessons along the way that make me a better governor.

I've learned that it is a good idea as governor to listen more and talk less, especially lines best left for "Saturday Night Live." ...

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldproud; calinitiatives; hydrogenhighway; prop71; schwarzenegger; specialelection; stemcellresearch; victimsrights
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To: Carry_Okie; calcowgirl
..nobody (except for those who know you well) will get it..

I wouldn't tease ccg too much, she might wonk ya with a Tecate bottle, empty , of course. lol

61 posted on 09/28/2005 10:22:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: calcowgirl

It's not really that funny. Prop 75 is not one of the ones he initiatied. The others, he did.


62 posted on 09/28/2005 10:25:18 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Carry_Okie

Maybe because he only mentioned the initiatives he sponsored. Seems simple enough to me.


63 posted on 09/28/2005 10:26:22 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Amerigomag

"baiting from ideologues"

Asking why someone deliberately misspells someone else's screen name is baiting? Wow.


64 posted on 09/28/2005 10:28:10 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: republicofdavis
Maybe because he only mentioned the initiatives he sponsored. Seems simple enough to me.

As opposed to the one he just endorsed at the Republican convention?

No.

Further, Arnold didn't sponsor the current redistricting proposal; Ted Costa did. Arnold proposed a competing measure, struck out, and then took over Costa's.

65 posted on 09/28/2005 11:02:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

"Maybe because he only mentioned the initiatives he sponsored. Seems simple enough to me."

"As opposed to the one he just endorsed at the Republican convention?

No."

He endorsed it. I don't see why it inevitably follows that he must mention it every time that he pushes the initiatives that are actually part of his agenda, and I don't see why he should be criticized for failing to do so. It's a cheap form of criticism to castigate someone for not mentioning something when they mention several other things.

"Further, Arnold didn't sponsor the current redistricting proposal; Ted Costa did. Arnold proposed a competing measure, struck out, and then took over Costa's."

That is correct. So?


66 posted on 09/28/2005 11:12:20 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Carry_Okie

>>Allow me this suggestion: When you toss a number out there like that, one that isn't published anywhere, you may know what you are doing, but nobody (except for those who know you well) will get it, and even then we'd like a better feel for how that number was calculated so that we can defend it.

I actually did in early posts on the subject. But that was back in Jan/Feb (and I can't find the posts). I thought I might have kept the backup, but I also dumped my hard drive recently, so I'm suffering here.

>>So, how much of this is old borrowing versus new?

It depends on how you define "borrowing". Since these are all promises made between government funds or cities/counties, it is difficult to determine if any amount may have actually created a debt (as might be defined by GAAP or the like).

>>Is there some way I can tease you into patching those numbers together into a vanity post?

I might try to patch them together, but I'm not up for a vanity post. After further reflection, I think I pulled most of the dollar values from LAO publications. I found quite a few of the pieces in the LAO report for Prop 76:

http://www.lao.ca.gov/ballot/2005/76_11_2005.htm

• Prop 42: $0.868 billion 2003-04 (originally to be repaid 2007-08)
• Prop 42: $1.2 billion 2004-05 (originally to be repaid 2008-09)
• Prop 42: $1.3 billion 2005-06 (I believe this was subsequently restored after the May revise--I need to double check.)
• Prop 42: $tbd billion 2006-07

• Prop 98: $3.8 billion (cumulative Maintenance Factor)

• Other funds: $1.0 billion (at end of 2005-06)

I think there are a couple more pieces here, like mandate claims and possibly K-14 items.


67 posted on 09/28/2005 11:18:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie

LOL. I only have Tecate in cans... and CO has those Jail Bait Ale bottles.
Uh uh, no way... no wonking from this end! I enjoy life!


68 posted on 09/28/2005 11:20:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie

>>Arnold proposed a competing measure, struck out, and then took over Costa's.

And Costa's measure was revised after that union. He actually submitted 2 to the SOS--one titled Redistricting, the other (Prop 77) titled Reapportionment.


69 posted on 09/28/2005 11:29:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

I looked over the props, and find little wrong with them.
Maybe they don't go far enough.

I wonder if all the carping is coming from Democrats
disguising themselves as Republicans. The other day someone
was suggesting that prop 76 would allow the governor to
raise taxes without consent of the legislature. Pure lies.


70 posted on 09/29/2005 12:00:28 AM PDT by RWCon
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To: calcowgirl; FOG724; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag
So they put the possible results of the vague language out there to deliberately invite question and comment! I think That is genius in editorialism!!! I wish we would see far more of this on these far reaching ballot measures!

Actually, I wish our Representative Republic were not so disfunctional that we felt the need for these far-reaching legislative propositions!!!

Thank you for posting it and I stand by my comments to it 100%!!!

72 posted on 09/29/2005 9:28:43 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh you conserveratives are so aggressively mean spirited it's just disgusting how you treat muddled moderates!(snort!)

All they wanna do is "look at life from both sides now..." It's distracting and emotionally upsetting!!! /s

73 posted on 09/29/2005 9:33:17 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: republicofdavis
So?

My point is that his support for paycheck protection has been consistently inconsistent. The omission is therefore duly noted.

Apparently you haven't noticed that "his agenda" depends upon what Arnold thinks the audience he is facing wants to hear.

74 posted on 09/29/2005 9:33:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: RWCon
I wonder if all the carping is coming from Democrats disguising themselves as Republicans.

lol

at least ya didn't say

I wonder if all the carping is coming from Democrats moderates disguising themselves as Republicans conservatives.

To some here, there appears to be a campaign to invalidiate conservatism at this site for the last few years, and seeking the path of least resistance to insolvency under the guise of Republican ideals, what ever they have morphed into of late at all levels of government.

75 posted on 09/29/2005 9:36:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: SierraWasp

My cats still love me. :-P

but they don't vote .. of late, anyway

whenever they see political attack ads these days, they hide .

Were that were true of the fence straddling centrist touting "Republicans" that prance around like lemmings on acid. ;-)


76 posted on 09/29/2005 9:42:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: RWCon

>>I wonder if all the carping is coming from Democrats disguising themselves as Republicans.

When supposed Republicans are promoting state socialized medicine (Prop 78) and other tax subsidized social programs (stem cell research, hydrogen highways, etc), one has to wonder if these aren't Democrats disguising themselves as Republicans. They certainly aren't conservatives (from which the carping is coming).


>>The other day someone was suggesting that prop 76 would allow the governor to raise taxes without consent of the legislature. Pure lies.

Kind of quick to call things "lies", aren't you? You are probably referring to this quote from an OC Register article that I posted.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488846/posts?page=7#7

While I personally couldn't find the language specifically for this interpretation, they stand by their interpretation of Prop 76--just ask 'em!


77 posted on 09/29/2005 9:55:33 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge
Avioding Sulla suggested that you might find this useful.
78 posted on 09/29/2005 10:07:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

"Apparently you haven't noticed that "his agenda" depends upon what Arnold thinks the audience he is facing wants to hear."

How very unlike a politician.


79 posted on 09/29/2005 10:07:35 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: republicofdavis

imo,, aRnold has already had his major impact and it was in environmental appointments he has made to state agencies within the bureaucracy, his open support of envirowackos and land grabbers and his wobbly approach to social issues.

I won't get into his financial management skills, they remain as yet to be proven beyond some sparse vetos for show. Remember, he does prppose the state budget and so far that has been a hugh success ... for spenders and those who reap the rewards of largesse, the likes of which this state has never seen before, or at least since the Wilson administration bent over and laid the largest tax increase on California since its founding as a Republic.


and none of these were or are politically driven at all, of course. ;-).


80 posted on 09/29/2005 10:16:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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