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House Approves 'ANTI-HATE' Bill Amendment
National Prayer Network ^ | Sept. 26 2005 | Rev. Ted Pike

Posted on 09/26/2005 12:47:56 PM PDT by manumission

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To: manumission

Thought crimes. This once Constitutional Republic is being driven to a most uncivil war by our rulers who cannot abide our Ratified Constitution, the one in their oath of office and the only one which confers upon them any claim of office or public sector employment. Once they nullify enough of our ratified Constitution, they are but of outlaw gangs, oligarch dictators demanding for more and more power over us, under color of law.


21 posted on 09/26/2005 1:09:58 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: manumission

We're really downsizing government in this "republican" administration! {cough cough}


22 posted on 09/26/2005 1:11:12 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: EagleUSA

But I understood this bill was attached to the child protection bill, at the last minute, and that the Senate or the President can wipe it out of that bill. Is that not true?

Fact is, Christians are discriminated ALL the time, as this bill does, but no one is prosecuted for that! This bill is thought control. Especially the [arts where the word "perceived" appears!!!!


23 posted on 09/26/2005 1:11:52 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: wvobiwan

"In a surprising move, the House of Representatives on September 14, 2005 approved “The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2005,” HR2662, as an amendment to the Children’s Safety Act, HR3132. It was approved 223-199."

Do you really think the Senate won't pass this? You'll be wrong.

Do you really think that President Bush won't sign this? You'll be wrong.

Did you not see this coming? Then you were wrong all along.


24 posted on 09/26/2005 1:13:52 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: gidget7

"But I understood this bill was attached to the child protection bill, at the last minute, and that the Senate or the President can wipe it out of that bill. Is that not true?
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The Senate could remove this part of the bill. Then it would go to a conference committee. However, it is unlikely that they will do so.

As for the President, he can either sign the bill or veto it. He can't change it. That's the way it works.

Trust me. The Senate's going to pass the bill with this language in it, and President Bush is going to sign it. The time for him to speak was some time ago, and he did not. So, it will come to his desk and he will sign it. If you dispute that, see the threads on CFR.


25 posted on 09/26/2005 1:16:46 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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26 posted on 09/26/2005 1:16:48 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: wvobiwan

I'm firing off a strongly worded objection to Boxer and Feinstein RIGHT NOW!!!


27 posted on 09/26/2005 1:17:02 PM PDT by CATravelAgent (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: CATravelAgent

"I'm firing off a strongly worded objection to Boxer and Feinstein RIGHT NOW!!! "

Yeah...that'll work....


28 posted on 09/26/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: manumission
I will never support any "special victims" law no matter who it protects, perverts or boy scouts!

We are equal before the law and mugging anyone is an equally serious crime and deserves equal punishment.

Murdering anyone likewise should be punishable equally regardless of who the victim is!

Why is that simple concept so hard to grasp?

29 posted on 09/26/2005 1:19:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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Throughout history, many homosexuals have sodomized underage boys.
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lol - and many heterosexuals have had relations with underage girls... big whup.

I agree with their larger point, a crime is a crime, but things like this make them look childish.


30 posted on 09/26/2005 1:31:36 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: Publius6961

Hate to tell you this, but your support is not required. Sorry.


31 posted on 09/26/2005 1:39:15 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Pessimist

"These authorities can carry out their responsibilities more effectively with greater Federal assistance"

This is the one sentance that jumped out at me too. Its like the State and Local Governments are too stupid or need help enforcing these laws.


32 posted on 09/26/2005 1:53:29 PM PDT by manumission
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So is the cosntitution. How is this bill requiring unequal protection possibly gonna be constitutional?

And since when has that been a requirement for a bill to become law and the supreme court to uphold it?

33 posted on 09/26/2005 1:55:38 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: manumission
Ah, the infinitely elastic Commerce Clause of FDR and LBJ.

(6) Such violence substantially affects interstate commerce in many ways, including--

(A) by impeding the movement of members of targeted groups and forcing such members to move across State lines to escape the incidence or risk of such violence; and

(B) by preventing members of targeted groups from purchasing goods and services, obtaining or sustaining employment, or participating in other commercial activity.

(7) Perpetrators cross State lines to commit such violence.

(8) Channels, facilities, and instrumentalities of interstate commerce are used to facilitate the commission of such violence.

(9) Such violence is committed using articles that have traveled in interstate commerce.

34 posted on 09/26/2005 1:55:55 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: manumission

So now we are punishing people on THOUGHT. To me a crime is a crime, and it really does not matter what they were thinking. This is just a Politically correct bill.


35 posted on 09/26/2005 1:57:05 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: manumission
Many house members, too busy to read the bill, thought they were protecting children

I wouldn't be so quick to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

36 posted on 09/26/2005 1:58:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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RINO Jim Kolbe was one of the very few Republicans who voted for the amendment to this "Child Safety" legislation which provides "hate crimes protections" (ie. special rights) for those who have chosen a deviant same-sex lifestyle (aka. "gays" or "homosexuals") and those who have had or want to have their genitalia surgically mutilated or removed to make them cosmetically appear as a member of the opposite sex (aka. "transgenders" or "transexuals").

Since being forced to admit to his chosen lifestyle (ie. coming out), and despite his promises at the time that his voting habits would not change, RINO Rep. Kolbe has become a champion for the radical gay agenda and can't seem to find gay agenda promoting legislation that he wont sponsor or vote for. His voting record and public statements on this issue are totally at odds with the Republican Party Platform.

The good news is that RINO Jim Kolbe is being challenged by a conservative Republican in the 2006 Primary Election. Randy Graf is a solid pro-life, pro-family, pro-border security Reagan Republican who served successfully as the House Majority Whip in the Arizona House of Representatives.

Randy Graf deserves your support. You can learn more about Randy Graf and how to support him by visiting his website at www.votegraf.com. Your help is desperately needed as Jim Kolbe was able to outspend Randy Graf by 10-1 in last years Primary Election.

37 posted on 09/26/2005 2:08:09 PM PDT by Spiff (I think that looters AND people who continue to misspell "Martial Law" should be shot.)
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To: manumission
We the People should never follow an unconstitutional law.

We the People should not forget our Constitutional OPTIONS..never mind if you think they have been "removed".

They have not...not in my book.

38 posted on 09/26/2005 2:34:22 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: manumission

My congressman voted Yay. I have just written him a letter about this.


39 posted on 09/26/2005 2:35:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Many house members, too busy to read the bill, thought they were protecting children

I wouldn't be so quick to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They knew exactly what they were doing.<<<<

I'd go one further: If they did not know what they were siging, because they did not READ it..they are Incompetant Boobs that should be REMOVED immediately by their constituents!

40 posted on 09/26/2005 2:38:03 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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