Posted on 09/26/2005 12:42:56 PM PDT by Glenn
of six counts in the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse case, The Associated Press reports.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
....guess it goodbye Lynndie...oops...you already have....
Typical military, when you need a scapegoat find a patsy that cannot fight back and everyone loves to hate. Such sanctimonious hypocrites.
These prisoners are of the same mind-set of the scum that flew planes into two American sky-scrapers and killed thousands of innocent Americans...
I don't consider the actions of this girl to be a crime in any sense of the word...They're lucky I wasn't guarding them...
I'll try very hard not to take that as a personal insult to the memory of my fourteen friends who've died in Iraq to date.
The military is only place in America where you do not get a jury of your peers.
This speaks volumes on how the military protects the officers and sends the enlisted to the brig. The 1-star is demoted to Col and allowed to retire with FULL benefits. At 24 years, (I don't know for sure, but I'm estimating her time-in-sevice) her base pay is $8,174 and at 60% (which is what you get at 24 years), that comes out to $4,904 per month along with annual COLA increases. Meanwhile, the PFC will be in jail.
For general clarity, that is a low "General Technical" score on the ASVAB. ASVAB isn't just for military any more. Click the link to find out more details on the "Career Exploration Program."
Absolutely. The prisoners deserved much worse than they got.
That doesn't change the fact that she violated orders and that her misconduct was not only prejudicial to good order and discipline, but also gave our enemies valuable propaganda. For that, she was a disgrace to the uniform and is rightfully being punished.
She was pregnant before the charges were ever brought. Possibly even before the "Leash" photos were taken.
Because you have treat them in the manner they understand and are used to, if you want to control them. They are used to being treated like the animals that they are.
That doesn't mean we have completely sink to their level. But "Nice" and "civil" is not likely to get the job done either.
Case in point, study Gen. Billy Mitchell. The military wanted his hide and they got it. A General no less. This PFC was just media bait for the military.
While you are fitting things, read what MacArthur had to say about the Mitchell affair. By the way, Mac was the only officer man enough to vote to acquit Mitchell. Maybe you can fit Lt. Calley into your program.
Yea, but that's just you.
For them it was extremely humiliating. But that was the Good Thing about it. :)
What orders? What orders did she violate?
It's my understanding that her chain of command ordered her to stay away from the prison. I'll have to check back to find the source for it.
I suspect that scum bag would bed anything with the proper equipment.
The conviction was proper, but I hope she gets off lightly. What she did was at most a minor offense, and she was encouraged in her action by those placed above her, including the aforementioned scum bag.
If that's the case, that she was ordered to stay away from the prison, then she should have been charged with disobeying that order. She was not. Instead she was charged with something entirely different.
Yeah. I probably wouldn't have gone after the conspiracy charge, but would've stuck with the indecent acts and prisoner maltreatment charges.
What those idiots did to ruin the credibility we so desperately tried to gain from the Iraqi people damn sure is criminal. A fitting punishment should be to send all of them back to Abu Gharib and let them spend the next 20 years doing 16 hour days cleaning out the shitters. They are an absolute disgrace to the uniform they wore and to the Army they represented.
Colonel Karpinski, like PFC England, was a reservist. Full retirement bennies are not that big a deal, depending on how much active duty time (Not much she was a reservist during Desert Storm and was called up then as well). Her civil service, assuming she was a Reserve Technician for many years, would be more than her reserve military retirements. If she was a "pure" reservist, that is one not serving full time as a so called "technician" in a civil service status, then the retirement is really not a big deal, and she was self employed as a management consultant.
The humiliation of being reduced in rank OTOH probably is a big deal, to her at least.
See, I don't get this.
I pay good money to be with a woman, on the floor naked with a dog collar around my neck.
These prisoners got it for free!
---
You realize you're sharing way too much.
This will come back to haunt you in your next campaign for the papacy.
Of course, that's probably just as well.
Actually we don't know about that. The officers had a duty to convict if the evidence showed the crimes were committed. Now comes the reccomendation of punishment phase. She may get a lighter sentence because of the panel being all officers. NCO's tend to be real hard a$$ types when it comes to matters of discipline. And most everything else. I know, I'm a former officer working for a former NCO. :)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.