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To: Right Wing Professor
They're giving high fives over at Panda's Thumb.

I've not visited that site.

Our side thinks he hit it out of the park.

Unless one reads the actual transcript, it's hard to tell. Based on the article in the paper today, Miller didn't even come close to hitting it out of the park. The cross-examination of Miller was not completed yesterday, so it will be interesting to see how today went. With a five week trial, this is just getting started. i don't think miller is going to be as strong a witness as some on the evolution side think.

Of course evolution is not a fact. It's a theory.

In other words, you can't state that it is true without reservation? Isn't that what the ID camp has be saying for years? There are a lot of evolutionists who claim that evolution is an established fact; and many of the pro-evolutionists on FR are among them.

Behe's testimony is going to be very interesting and I would suggest the same concerning Phillip Johnson, if he testifies.

This may or may not wind up being a battle the ACLU should have sat out.

104 posted on 09/27/2005 9:28:01 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
In other words, you can't state that it is true without reservation

No. I can say the Theory of Special Relativity is also true, without reservation. The experimental evidence is so extensive there is no significant chance of falsification.

There are a lot of evolutionists who claim that evolution is an established fact; and many of the pro-evolutionists on FR are among them.

We're dealing in semantics here. Is it a fact that OJ killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, or a theory? Is it a fact that Charlie Manson masterminded the murder of Sharon Tate, or that LHO killed JFK?

Behe's testimony is going to be very interesting and I would suggest the same concerning Phillip Johnson, if he testifies.

He won't. The only way he'd testify is if the plaintiffs could figure out a way to subpoena him. Johnson's made so many rash statements about ID he'd be a sitting duck, Professor of Law or not.

I don't think Behe's going to be a good witness. Miller's an award winning teacher and textbook author. Those skills translate pretty well to the witness stand. Behe's a science nerd; research scientists, particularly those who haven't done much teaching, are often totally discombobulated under cross-examination (I've done quite a bit of expert witness work, and I've seen it happen. I saw one guy forced to completely contradict himself at a deposition, for heaven's sake. Our attorney looked like a cat who'd just swallowed a mouse.)

Worse for Behe, he'll not be able to live down his testimony. Writing silly books was one thing, but actively testifying on the anti-science side in a trial like this is quite another. He will be completely ostracized.

106 posted on 09/28/2005 7:17:54 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (...of course, they did also dynamite the levees to cause a flood.)
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