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To: sheltonmac

So, since it's happened, let's just lay down and die. Not fight. Not try to take it back. Good plan...

Hmmm, using immediate Fed response to relax or eliminate the programs that the Left has entrenched in the last 60 years is a bad idea... Having the Fed take a (temporarily) stronger role by, say, redefining who qualifies for welfare or gov't housing, something that, given its entrenched nature, WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED with the Left or in any other circumstance, is bad... Again, it's myopic to assume that the fact that the Fed is spending ALOT *right now* means it will never stop, and that the powers it takes *right now* are in the long run detrimental. I see this as opening doors--sure, the Fed is taking power...AWAY from the Left and their socialist ideals.

Poor state response = Fed steps in and gets the states to be more proactive. In the end, the States win as we have better plans and don't NEED to rely on the Fed later on.

Welfare/public housing = we know that it is perpetuated by the Left and their socialist programs, but the VICTIMS don't know that. So now the Fed can retool the whole system to REMOVE the dependency. People can use public assisstance for what it was originally intended--to get a hand up. With Fed $$$ comes Fed rules, so the State can no longer give the $$$ to Leftist programs to waste--it must be spent how WE want it spent.

I could go on and on. NONE of it would happen, however, if not for a TEMPORARY increase in Federal power. The Left wants it, so let's give'em what they want--FOR NOW; let's use their ideals AGAINST them. They will LOSE in the end, however. We have to play the game, b/c, as the article pointed out, the only way people will GET a smaller gov't is if they WANT it. The only way they will WANT it is if we show them how well it works. The only way we can show them how well it works is by DEFEATING the oppostion--namely, the Big Gov't and socialist programs side. The only way we can DEFEAT them is to PLAY THEIR GAME.


26 posted on 09/26/2005 11:45:13 AM PDT by jcb8199
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To: jcb8199

Translation: "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Yes, people need to want smaller government. So why not make the case? Why not try convincing people that big government is a bad thing? Articles like this only make it more difficult to do that.


28 posted on 09/26/2005 11:58:42 AM PDT by sheltonmac (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES)
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To: jcb8199
NONE of it would happen, however, if not for a TEMPORARY increase in Federal power.

You really ought to try to base your plan on a more realistic premise, e.g.:

NONE of it would happen, however, if not for a TEMPORARY visitation by my fairy godmother.
NONE of it would happen, however, if not for a TEMPORARY suspension of the laws of physics.
NONE of it would happen, however, if not for a TEMPORARY loan from the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

43 posted on 09/26/2005 1:07:34 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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