[RunningWolf]

Well then thats because I was trying to operate within the parameters of the evos here, many of them state it as 'science says' and no one on your side ever corrects it, then when I use it now its bad logic.

Wolf

[Mylo]

My problem isn't with your construction "Scientists say..." that is a generalization, but OK.

I'll use it. 'Scientists say that the earth orbits the sun.' Or 'Scientists say that non material explanations are not scientific."

My problem was with your "Scientists say it is good/evil." When someone delves into the realm of good and evil they are not doing so as "a Scientist" but as a human being with a morality system.

Science is not a morality system.

Moreover many Scientists are of differing opinions on almost any subject not directly related to science. Such as the nature of good and evil.

So as you don't think I'm avoiding the question (although it has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about, unless your going to say that only Scientists have abortions, and that this was over a dispute on Scientific interpretation (as the illogical postings of those who attribute the murders of Nazi's and Commie's to Scientific dispute are attempting)), here is my opinion.

I think (not as a Scientist mind you, but as a human) that creating human life for experimentation is evil. However I am glad that President George W. Bush was the first President to authorize embryonic stem cell research on cell lines that were already established. To let something of value go to waste is also evil; although of a less sinister nature.