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To: moog
Evolutionists are making evolution into a political issue by insisting that it be taught as a fact in public schools at public expense, and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

Ultimately this one will be settled at ballot boxes and in courtrooms.

15 posted on 09/26/2005 6:11:28 AM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: tamalejoe

I fail to see the problem with wanting to teach the best theory we have about how we got here. If nothing else it shows how the scientific method. As has been repeated too many times to count on these threads show me one experiment that supports Intelligent Design.


20 posted on 09/26/2005 6:17:55 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: tamalejoe
Evolutionists are making evolution into a political issue by insisting that it be taught as a fact in public schools at public expense, and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

I think both sides are making it into an issue, especially here. I will say that I never had any problem learning evolution in school--it actually strengthened my belief in ID. Besides, my mother and father were perfectly capable of teaching me about creation without having to depend on the government to do so.

ID is still mainly faith-based (one has to have faith in the supreme power) and could not completely replace evolution in length.

There are different versions of the creation, depending on the religion too. In my Sunday school class, the 10 people had 10 different versions of the Creation. One said he thought that all the dinosaurs and such lived on another world and were brought here somehow. Whose version are we going to teach?

I think there are more simple solutions and that there doesn't have to be this long drawn-out battle. STRESS that evolution is a theory. ID is based on that some parts of evolution are true. DISCUSS OR MENTION ID as a competing theory and indicate out its main points--one of them being that the world and the universe is so complex that some believe there was a guiding force behind it all.

There are other things in life besides ID and evolution.

25 posted on 09/26/2005 6:25:11 AM PDT by moog
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To: tamalejoe
and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

That's becasue there are no other theories uspported by evidence. The cause celeb of the day, ID, doesn't even have any facts behind it. Evolution does.

43 posted on 09/26/2005 6:41:09 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: tamalejoe
Evolutionists are making evolution into a political issue by insisting that it be taught as a fact in public schools at public expense, and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

Ultimately this one will be settled at ballot boxes and in courtrooms.

That's a sad testament. These creatards are trying to ram their religious bullcrap into schools and informed, educated and intelligent conservatives are forced to hope that the federal judiciary steps up to the plate to turn back these maniacs and actually uphold the Constitution. That these people are motivated to try and destroy the science of evolution along with the First Amendment is a sad testament to how pitifully small the conservative movement is becoming. It's becoming a bought-and-paid-for arm of "Cristo-theocracy, Inc." ("Believe man rode dinosaurs, and send me money. Cha-ching!")

60 posted on 09/26/2005 6:53:24 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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