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To: rdb3

The only admission I made is that peoples have long memories. The Greeks still hate the pope because of the Fourth Crusade in 1202, which resulted in the sack of Constantinople by a western army.But that is an extreme example. Segregation, not slavery, made American blacks into a sub-nationality, sort of like Irish Catholics. Like the Irish they nurse past grievances. Until recently they have contributed to the IRA. The Irish-Catholics, those who still take their religion seriously and have got a little money, are just now starting to vote for Republican candidates. Probably they still feel guilty about betraying family tradition, because many who do vote Republican call themselves independents.


14 posted on 09/26/2005 4:16:28 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

As an Irish Catholic from NYC I think there has always been a blue collar segment of the Irish who are politically conservative--they want criminals to finish their prison terms, lazy people to get off the public dole, and they are anti-lock-step feminist--Irish women are pretty influential within the home and don't necessarily see themselves as needing the liberal elite to free them (and they abhor girly men...think firemen and Marines)--remember the Reagan Democrats? That's us.


47 posted on 09/26/2005 3:19:13 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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