Dispute over evolution goes on trial in U.S. court

Baltimore Sun ^ | September 26, 2005 | Arthur Hirsch

[mlc9852]

Humans are not apes. That makes absolutely no sense just by simple observation. And if you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

[Vive ut Vivas]

I should clarify once more that nothing is ever proved in science.

[mlc9852]

Evidence that simply indicates certainly can be interpreted in different ways.

[ml1954]

Sorry. Not playing.

[Vive ut Vivas]

Humans are not apes. That makes absolutely no sense just by simple observation. And if you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

You're out of touch with reality. Humans are apes. And mammals. And vertebrates. Are you going to dispute those too?

[mlc9852]

Gonna take your ball and go home?

[mlc9852]

Humans are mammals - that is obvious. It is equally obvious we are not apes. Apes are apes and humans are humans - surely you see the distinction. I just can't imagine believing an ape is equal to a human. Why aren't mice and pigs equal to humans? Our DNA is very, very close. Why choose apes to descend from?

[Vive ut Vivas]

Evidence that simply indicates certainly can be interpreted in different ways.

All evidence will ever do is "simply indicate". There are incorrect ways to interpret evidence. Newton could have incorrectly interpreted that gravity was angels pushing down on him.

[ml1954]

Nah. Your no fun and not worth the effort.

[Vive ut Vivas]

I'll play. Why don't you give me the characteristics of an ape, and how, specifically, humans do not fit them?

Btw what do you mean by "Why aren't mice and pigs equal to humans"? What do you mean by "equal"?

[mlc9852]

So you admit to incorrect interpretation, except when it comes to evolution, right?

[mlc9852]

That should be "you're" - a contraction. Maybe you should have studied English as hard as you studied evolution.

[Vive ut Vivas]

Oh please. When you demonstrate where the evidence has been incorrectly interpreted, I'll listen.

[mlc9852]

Relatives - cousins, descendents. I am descended from humans. We and they looked like humans, thought like humans, and lived like humans. Apes do not look like us, think like us, or live like us. Apes are apes. Humans are humans.

[mlc9852]

And when you prove humans descended from apes, I'll listen.

[JasonSC]

Intelligent Falling is already gaining popularity. Check out this article from a very credible source.

We have to stop the Secular Gravitists from suppressing IF! Physics students should be exposed to all viewpoints!

Teach the controversy!

[Vive ut Vivas]

Telling me "apes are apes" is not telling me what an ape is.

[Vive ut Vivas]

Have you learned nothing from this? Nothing in science is ever "proven". And I know you won't even click this, but the List-O-Links has a ton of evidence for evolution. So don't say I haven't given you any, because there's some right there. Go through that, point out something that is wrong, and then we'll talk. Better yet, show you even have a basic understanding of what science is.

[ml1954]

Now what would Jesus say about all of your insults?

And for one last time, I'm not playing. Have fun.

[JasonSC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

Apes are members of the superfamily Hominoidea, which includes the family Hominidae (Hominids). Humans are hominids - therefore by definition, humans are apes, whether you like it or not.