Posted on 09/25/2005 12:47:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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I posted both articles in one thread in order to see them together. It seems there are groups which are determined to bring Turkey into the EU at any and all costs.
I think it is in the best interests for the EU to not fall into the abyss. It will just be another mess the USA is going to have to clean up.
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Turkey will never join the EU, in my opinion, and it's a waste of time to even bother with the negotiations. Any EU nations that hold a referendum, and there will be at least some, will defeat Turkish accession.
Hopefully, for the sake of the European nations, the EU will never admit Turkey.
Beyond the obvious fact that the Turks invaded Asia Minor and drove out or killed millions of Christians who had been there many centuries before they were [and have now vanished 99.9%], how can Asia Minor be part of a "European" Union anyway?
PS. My personal suspicion has always been that the reason why the EU and Turkey are even carrying on negotiations is as a cover for: (a) political & economic reforms in Turkey; and (b) finally resolving the Cyprus question. In the end, Turkey will accept privileged partnership status and that'll be it. However, everyone will be better off for going through the process, so I guess it's not truly a waste of time as I said before.
I just wanted to emphasize that I can't imagine Turkey ever joining the EU. There are at least a couple EU nations that would require a referendum to approve Turkey's membership, and there is absolutely no chance in my view that the electorate of any EU nation would vote yes. If the people vote on it, all 25 would vote no.
The EU is basically an agreement to the globalization and connectivity of the western nations, Japan and the U.S. Turkey is so highly fractionalized and divided by religious interets that their EU acceotance is highly problematic.
Read: 'The United States of Europe,' an excellent book that describes the EU.
I think you have something there, Imagine if they can keep pushing the EU membership all the way around the mediterainian.
I think it may end up being a "perpetual" negotiations where Turkey ends up like the Puerto Rico of the EU.
Where exactly are the political and geograpical lines of demarcation between Europe and Asia, and are they one and the same or are they different?
The border between Europe and Asia consists of the three segments: 1) the waterway between the Mediterranean and Black Seas, 2) the boundary on the south side of the countries of Armenia and Azerbaijan in the Caucasus, and 3) the Ural Mountains in Russia, then following the northern boundary of Kazakhstan to the Black Sea. Turkey has a little area inside Europe, but 97+% is in Asia. There is no way they are "European" in any meaningful sense, especially since they drove out the last 500,000 Christians in 1955.
Thanks, that information will be very useful in helping to ascertain the political structures and divisions in those regions.
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