LIVE THREAD: Polish parliamentary elections 2005

[Lukasz]

In my church ( well known cathedral in Gdansk Oliwa) a priest indirectly suggested to vote for PiS.

[AdmSmith]

How is it nowadays, isn't Radio Maryja disliked by the Catholic church?

[lizol]

Yeah, I've heard it. Hurray!

[REactor]

Yes, it is - keep in mind, that mass-media has been very friendly to PO. So it was en vogue to admit, that one was going to vote for them.

I have a different theory. Many people who supported PO in the surveys were young (25-30) people, not churchgoers, without any strong political convictions, the "Nirvana generation", who might have even considered going to vote, but on the actual day of voting they just, well... didn't feel like going anywhere:) The example of my sister and my brother-in-law is very telling: only two days before I asked them if they were going to vote. They said maybe, and that if they would vote they would certainly vote PO. Today I phoned them and asked whether they voted: the did not of course. They spent the whole day watching movies on DVD. What a shame.

[lizol]

Don't exaggerate.

I'm a PO supporter, and I don't consider myself as "a lukewarm Catholic".
Same applies to my wife, and many of my friends.

[AdmSmith]

I think that you are right.

[Lukasz]

Polls for Senate:

[lizol]

TVN 24 exit-poll relating to the presidential election -
1st round - Tusk - 45%, Kaczynski - 33%
2nd round - Tusk - 57%, Kaczynski - 43%

52% don't want to have twin brothers as the prime minister and the president.

[REactor]

How is it nowadays, isn't Radio Maryja disliked by the Catholic church?

It is disliked by most of the hierarchy and the "liberal" Catholics. But it has still some supporters among the traditionalist bishops and many among the elderly, poor, very religious, anti-European and (to some extent) anti-Jewish part of the population. Radio Maryja was condemned by some of the bihops (like Lublin's Archbishop Zycinski), but Radio is owned by the Redemptorist Order, and Orders are highly independent from the local bishops.

[REactor]

I wrote "great part". I don't consider myself to be lukewarm too, but you can't deny that PO never underlined religion as one of their themes. PO is more or less neutral on religious matters.

[alessandrofiaschi]

I'd have voted CIVIC PLATFORM (PO)

[alessandrofiaschi]

My to PO!

[REactor]

Nice to hear it. How is Berlusconi doing? I am a fan of his.

[anonymoussierra]

"Let’s deal with it one by one. One PO and PIS will form coalition we just have to wait and see whom is going scratch their back, you know what I mean. Question is how this respond to our situation will; of fore dos coalition will be form we should know everything by Wednesday. I stood by for PO and I will vote for Tusk and I voted for PO. If you think about it prawica has total 54% that means a basic majority. Lets be patient and see how this plays out.."

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A tak po naszemu bo lepiej, jakby niebylo to sie wszystko niedlugo okaze. Nie wstawiajcie bram dopuki sa nie postawione. W uznaleznieniu istoty polozenia jest pewien kwest. Zobaczymy jaki bedzie, dlatego prosze was, o zrozumienie pewnego czastku rozrgywki, zwiazek miedzy PO i PIS bedzie musial bydz ztworzony ze wzgledu na fakt, iz prawica otrzymala wiecej glosow i koalicja musi byc zformulowana. Wtej wiekszosci bedzie mozna przedstawic radykalne zmiany w rzadzie a takze w prawach polityczno-ekonomicznych, ktore so integralna czescia naszej polityki. No dobra rozpisalam sie, przepraszam ale jestem zadowolona zescie glosowali i wkoncu kopnelismy komunistow na srebrzysko. Lukasz tak poza tym, czleku ty jestes kolo mnie, jak kamieniem rzucic, mam rodzine na Oliwie w Gdansku, ktoregos dnia musimy sobie pogadac. Wpadnij na Witawe. No dobra Bog zaplac. Trzymajcie sie/ albo po szybkiemu trzymta sie. Kurcze czciaki mu uciekaja, napisalam wszystko po naszemu i widze ze mi wszystko ucieklo. Jezeli so jakies bledy to mnie poprawcie.

[ChadGore]

VICTORY !

[anonymoussierra]

Dla was http://www.wprost.pl/wyboryparlamentarne2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wyniki wyborów parlamentarnych Frekwencja 40,36
Rozkład głosów
Liga Polskich Rodzin	8%
Partia Demokratyczna	2%
Platforma Obywatelska	26%
Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe	5%
Prawo i Sprawiedliwość	28%
Samoobrona	10%
Socjaldemokracja Polska	3%
Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej	10%
Rozkład mandatów
Liga Polskich Rodzin	7.4% (mandatów: 34)
Platforma Obywatelska	31.8% (mandatów: 146)
Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe	4.1% (mandatów: 19)
Prawo i Sprawiedliwość	34.4% (mandatów: 158)
Samoobrona	10.2% (mandatów: 47)
Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej	12% (mandatów: 55)

Źródło: GfK Polonia dla TVN i TVN24, 25 wrzesnia 2005, 20:26

 

[anonymoussierra]

http://www.wprost.pl/wyboryparlamentarne2005

sorry thank you

[dfwgator]

I think this a good result, it seems both PO and PiS emcompass the two aspects of conservatism, fiscal(PO) and social(PiS). It's good if both can work together, rather than have one too dominant.

[Heatseeker]

It looks good to me. Would that more voters in Poland's western neighbor had been so smart!

[anonymoussierra]

chlipka mialo bydz cholipka:}}}}}}}}}}dzieki lizol