If you're going to continue your childish behavior, you coudl at least ping people you are speaking about.
Forum etiquette you know, you've been here long enough to know that.
Was I talking past you, as if you weren't in the room? Perhaps like some famous dog trainer, speaking to other famous dog trainers about their wee lil' doggies on the leash besides them? Mean things about those wee lil' doggies they say, rude nicknames, and such. But the doggies don't hear.
And the famous dog trainers wouldn't care if they did.
Why? The only relationship loved by famous dog trainers is control. Not "taming" per se. A "tame" dog is not much a delight to them -- but an coweringly obedient one is.
We'd best keep our yipping down, DS, lest we upset the famous.