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Corporal Punishment Up in N.Y. Schools
AP ^ | 9/25/5 | MICHAEL GORMLEY

Posted on 09/24/2005 10:42:34 PM PDT by SmithL

Albany, N.Y. -- Formal complaints of corporal punishment in New York classrooms more than doubled over the past five years, with 4,223 accusations reported in 2004, according to records obtained by The Associated Press.

At the same time, fewer school districts were filing the required semiannual reports detailing corporal punishment allegations, the records show.

Many of the allegations involved faculty or staff pushing, slapping and grabbing students' arms. Among those verified were an incident in which a teacher put a misbehaving student outside to cool off in December without a jacket, a teacher who tackled a student who reached for a pencil on the floor, and several cases of students' mouths taped shut.

The state Education Department reviewed the records after they were requested by the AP and said it would recommend revising the reporting policy.

The Education Department's analysis of just last year's reported cases found as many as 65 percent of the allegations couldn't be verified by the school, or the district provided insufficient information to support the allegation. The data showed 54 percent of the incidents were physical, 17 percent were verbal, 8 percent were both, and 21 percent were categorized as "other."

School districts' action against the offending teachers, substitute teachers, bus drivers, teacher aides, lunch monitors and other employees varied widely. Most received counseling or a memo in their personnel files. A few were fired.

The teacher who put the student out in 32-degree weather for eight to 10 minutes faced a "counseling session ... about appropriate expectations with action plan," according to the records. The tackling teacher was suspended for six months with pay and had to complete online classes in classroom management. Teachers who taped students' mouths shut received counseling memos for their personnel files and one was suspended.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: discipline; sparetherod
A lot of spoiled children out there.
1 posted on 09/24/2005 10:42:40 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I say, go back to the day of the paddle, half these brats need it. School uniforms wouldn't hurt either.


2 posted on 09/24/2005 10:49:44 PM PDT by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: SmithL

And corporal punishment is somehow a problem?

If they do wrong, they get punished. That's the way things work.


3 posted on 09/24/2005 11:04:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (We DARE Defend Our Rights [Alabama State Motto])
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To: garylmoore

The meds Gary,the Meds.
Let's worry about things closer to home that we have some hope to have some influence upon.
This other stuff just makes folks angry.
How are you doing on your gratitude list Gary?


4 posted on 09/24/2005 11:08:00 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It's probibly against the law in New York. It is in Illinois. It worked for years bring it back.


5 posted on 09/24/2005 11:08:03 PM PDT by one more state
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To: one more state

A paddling would work better than meds. Were it not for my parents, I would've been subjected to Ritalin in 1st grade (lived in Virginia at the time).

And all because I was bored with class. Not my fault I already knew the stuff I was being told.

But back on-topic...a sore butt means you've been naughty. Pain is often a capable teacher.


6 posted on 09/24/2005 11:11:11 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (We DARE Defend Our Rights [Alabama State Motto])
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To: SmithL
In my high school there were usually more kids roaming the hallway than in class.

One teacher would actually have to fight every week because of idiots attacking him in the hallway(he would stand up to the verbal abuse and it pissed the idiots off). He was an ex-Marine and many noses were broken. One idiot brought a pocket knife and got taken out by the sleeper hold.


They built a housing project near the school a few years back and that teacher retired. He feared for his life and last I heard they are installing metal detectors.

Ah, the joys of Marxism.
7 posted on 09/24/2005 11:14:50 PM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: varyouga

Sounds to me like that teacher should have been made principle of the school!

I wonder why it hasn't occurred to educators by now that tough kids join gangs THAT INFORCE PAINFUL AND STRICT RULES so that they have ORDER in their lives?

Kids want it. Kids need it. Kids love it.


8 posted on 09/24/2005 11:39:58 PM PDT by Humidston (It's Bush's fault)
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To: SmithL

Of course the other side of that is doing wrong may now consist of having conservative views that conflict with the teacher's rigid liberal idealogies. Would be interested in knowing that the student's infractions exactly were that prompted such punishment.


9 posted on 09/25/2005 12:48:24 AM PDT by psychopuppy
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To: SmithL
Well, the idiot liberals have again contributed to the utter destruction of the educational system by effectively outlawing corporal punishment in the schools. So the necessary effect is that there is absolutely no discipline.

Don't tell liberals, though. They're on to the next idiot socialist idea.

10 posted on 09/25/2005 5:29:37 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: SmithL

He that spareth his rod hateth his son. Proverbs 13-24


11 posted on 09/25/2005 5:39:12 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: SmithL

I got whacked on the behind with my teacher's high-heeled shoe once - for talking. It was a stoopit boy's fault for bugging me.


12 posted on 09/25/2005 8:23:32 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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