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Navy Secretly Contracted Jets Used by CIA
AP ^ | Sept 24 2005

Posted on 09/24/2005 12:16:41 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort

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To: Leroy S. Mort

BFD. "There's a war on!"
Go Navy!


41 posted on 09/24/2005 2:56:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: megatherium; Cobra64; ASA Vet; river rat; Dark Skies; MNJohnnie
Since the 1970s we have been attacked dozens of times by an amorphous enemy that slinks across international borders, hides among our populations, and uses our law and traditions to conceal their conspiracies.

They have no regard for the civilized world; they have not signed on to any Geneva Convention and will use any and all means to defeat us.

We have not only the right but the duty to use any and all means, as they would use against us to defeat them.
42 posted on 09/24/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: Jacquerie
We have not only the right but the duty to use any and all means, as they would use against us to defeat them

VERY good. I agree.

43 posted on 09/24/2005 3:07:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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To: stocksthatgoup

no more people are sent to Gitmo - they get ACLU lawyers there.


44 posted on 09/24/2005 3:11:24 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Leroy S. Mort

I'm no fan of LBJ but if one of the news services had released
this kind of information on his watch, heads would have rolled.


45 posted on 09/24/2005 3:11:53 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: megatherium
But Abu Ghraib made a lot of Iraqis angry, and it was counterproductive.

In all due respect, we don't know that it was counterproductive (only the men and women in U.S. Intel know that). And, when it comes to what others think of our torture...I don't remember a whole lot of Muslims crying over the beheading of innocent non-muslim civilians.

Iraqi's angry about panties and the shame of nakedness...frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn.

I think it is criminal to sentence Lyndie England to 11 years for her work at Abu Ghraib.

We are facing the most inhumane enemy in the history of the world (in fact, they have been this inhumane since they enter the history of the world).

Pick up a rifle and join the National Guard, but don't cry to me about our insensitivity to this demonic enemy. The Judeo/Christian west isn't perfect...but we are infinitely more humane than Islamic culture.

Panties and dog leashes, indeed. Nazi Germany would write hilarious comedies about this stupidity on our part.

46 posted on 09/24/2005 3:13:14 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: MNJohnnie

I agree, this is probably just rough questioning at best. and keeping them in stressful circumstances.


47 posted on 09/24/2005 3:14:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: megatherium; Fred Nerks; justche; USF; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger; ...
Sorry to pester you with a barrage of unwanted posts, but we are at war.

Every piece of information and intel retrieved, pulled or teased from a prisoner of war saves the lives of the enemy as well our side. Go easy on the enemy (they surely will not go easy on us) and this war continues and more damage is done to humans and civilization.

You need to do some research and make some heartfelt decisions about how war is fought.

Islam (Salafi, Wahhabi, devout...etc.) has declared war on the non-Islamic world. They want to rape our women and children, to behead our men of war...and to subjegate, convert, or murder all other civilians.

Our enemy moves slowly and under the radar in many ways...but they will kill you or your children or grandchildren.

Is that the legacy you want to leave?

48 posted on 09/24/2005 3:22:42 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: leadpenny
I'm no fan of LBJ but if one of the news services had released this kind of information on his watch, heads would have rolled.

LBJ was a buffoon.
He carried a sheath of uncovered TS codeword documents in the open for all the prestitutes to photograph.
Cost thousand of man hours to change everything world wide and probably several million $$.

He didn't order his own head to be rolled.

49 posted on 09/24/2005 3:23:45 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: ASA Vet

He was a buffoon for sure.
I just meant that he had most of the news organization 'bigs' in his back pocket.


50 posted on 09/24/2005 3:29:20 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: oceanview
”I agree, this is probably just rough questioning at best. and keeping them in stressful circumstances.”

Actually this is an old story, these people where wanted in Saudi Arabia which don’t treat their prisoners very well. They left the important point out that they where Saudi prisoners not ours.

51 posted on 09/24/2005 3:31:34 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: leadpenny
news organization 'bigs' in his back pocket.

Which commieRAT doesn't? The MSM is after all just the media branch of the commieRAT party.

Buffoon that he was, he wasn't the worst commieRAT President of the last century.

He's number 3 after Slick and Jimmy.

52 posted on 09/24/2005 3:34:17 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: ASA Vet

I've listened to enough of the LBJ tapes to believe he held more sway over more news execs and columnists than the other two did. He added new meaning to the term "button holing."


53 posted on 09/24/2005 3:44:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jacquerie
They have no regard for the civilized world; they have not signed on to any Geneva Convention and will use any and all means to defeat us.

We have not only the right but the duty to use any and all means, as they would use against us to defeat them.

There you go. Good work!

54 posted on 09/24/2005 3:45:59 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: leadpenny
I think that was because the MSM was still in transition.
They moved from being an American news source to the mouth piece for the left which they've become.
55 posted on 09/24/2005 3:51:27 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Sorry, but no... I'm a Yankee fan.

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88; Plano (Texas) Yankee #23

56 posted on 09/24/2005 3:52:11 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Dark Skies; megatherium
megatherium:"But Abu Ghraib made a lot of Iraqis angry, and it was counterproductive.

Hmmmm, what doesn't make mooslimbs angry?

Lacking any real gripes, they'll happily manufacture their own excuses or instigate a conflict and then whine about victimhood when they invariably get their a$$es handed back to them on a platter anyway.

As for Abu Ghraib - if I were Daniel Pearl, Ken Bigley, Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, any of the captured and Thai or Russian police or military, any of the 1000's of Christians decapitated by in Nigeria or Philippines or a victim of Islamic barbarity in Dafur, Indonesia, or elsewhere - I'd happily appreciate the choice of having panties on my head or my head removed by Koranimals chanting "Allah Akbar!" over and over again while the blood gurgles in whats left of my throat.

57 posted on 09/24/2005 3:57:45 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Dark Skies

You just can't make some folks happy can you, no matter how hard you try, geeze, if I were a terrorist and a muslim (funny how they go so well together) nothing would please me more than to be sent to another muslim country where the culture, the language and the food is familiar and where I don't have to talk, touch or even look at a single filthy kuffar...but I'm not a muslim and neither am I a dangerous Left wing idiot enemy of America like Satterthwaite. I've just had a brilliant idea. Send all the Gitmo trash back to their sandboxes, let their own governments deal with them (hello, Amnesty International?) and use the facility in Cuba for the REAL enemies of the US; the rabid, frothing at the mouth lying scum who enjoy the best the US has to offer whilst doing their best to destroy it.
PS. Accusations of torture are par for the course - OSB wrote that into his instruction book. Maybe we should send this demented woman a copy? Here's the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1354196/posts


58 posted on 09/24/2005 3:58:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks; USF
Hey, Freddie and USF!

Good to hear from you both.

I really wonder if the prisoners at Gitmo are really upset by lap dances with female guards...after all, Gitmo is in Dar Al-Harb, not Dar Al-Islam. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the rules of conduct different in Dar Al-Harb? Aren't lap dances, OK?

59 posted on 09/24/2005 4:08:54 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The only way to find yourself is in the fires of sorrow." -- Oswald Chambers)
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To: USF; Dark Skies

Margaret Satterthwaite
Research Director, Center for Human Rights and Global Justice, and Adjunct Assistant Professor of Clinical Law

Margaret Satterthwaite joined NYU in 2003 after many years in the human rights field. Her human rights career began before law school: between 1990 and 1996, she co-founded and then directed Amnesty International USA's program on the human rights of those persecuted on the basis of their sexual orientation. Satterthwaite also completed a Master's Degree and served as International Programs Coordinator for the human rights education organization Street Law, where she helped develop curriculum in human rights and legal literacy, as well as conducting workshops and training sessions for human rights advocates and legal professionals. In 1995, she was employed as a human rights investigator by the Haitian National Truth and Justice Commission.

After receiving her law degree from NYU in 1999, Satterthwaite clerked for Judge Betty Fletcher of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. The following year she was the Furman Fellow at the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights, where she focused on emergency law and collusion in Northern Ireland . In 2002, Satterthwaite clerked at the International Court of Justice in The Hague . Between 2002 and 2003, Satterthwaite was a human rights consultant for the United Nations, working with the human rights section of the United Nations Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM).

Satterthwaite has designed and taught courses on gender, human rights, and humanitarian law at Columbia University and the University of California at Santa Cruz . She has published reports and articles on human rights topics in scholarly and advocacy contexts. Her research interests include methodologies for measuring and monitoring social and economic rights; gender, sexuality and human rights; and the human rights of migrants. She is an active member of the International Human Rights Committee of the Association of the Bar of the City of New York , and is Program Chair of the International Human Rights section of the American Association of Law Schools.

http://www.nyuhr.org/staff.html


60 posted on 09/24/2005 4:10:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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