[Lancey Howard]

....it's also true that when the base has not strongly supported the Republican nominee the results have been Presidents like Carter and Clinton - and the base understands that.

And obviously the base can live with that (as evidenced by the election of those two) and this is why McCain apparently believes that he can win without the Republican base. It would be far preferable for a Democrat to win the Presidency over any Republican who dismisses the conservative base, because anytime a Republican wins without the conservative base, it emboldens other cowards in the GOP to try to do the same thing. Eventually you will end up with a conservative base without a perty.

[Tom Thumbs]

And obviously the base can live with that (as evidenced by the election of those two) and this is why McCain apparently believes that he can win without the Republican base. It would be far preferable for a Democrat to win the Presidency over any Republican who dismisses the conservative base, because anytime a Republican wins without the conservative base, it emboldens other cowards in the GOP to try to do the same thing. Eventually you will end up with a conservative base without a perty.

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I'm convinced that if somehow Clinton had won a third term, the Republican Congress would have withstood him tooth and nail if he'd tried to hammer through an agenda even HALF as radical as the one GWB has pursued.

God Bless Gridlock. Oh, how I miss it...