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Yep. Big government republicans now seem to outnumber the ones who claim to be otherwise. They have shifted the focus from being the party of small government to whatever it needs to be today. Just like the rats. It is almost like the two parties have done a divide and conquer on us to meet where they always planned. We will become like all the rest of the countries. One conservative party and one liberal party, both socialists. So many on FR get so excited when they see a foreign election going to the conservative. They have no clue that these people are just as much the socialists as the ones they replaced.

"It is almost like the two parties have done a divide and conquer on us to meet where they always planned."

I see that too. Depending on the day, Some days (when my tin foil hat isn't at the cleaners) I think our gvt, like most others, is really just controlled by the elites -regardless of their party. I'm guessing a lot of these guys belong to the same country club, have the same investments, etc...

Other times I think the leftward lean of our gvt is just a reflection of the leftward lean of the population. When you listen to a lot of the comments here from supposed conservatives, you can really see the erosion in that term anymore.

I'm not sure which perspective depresses me more.