Border Frustration - Residents struggling with the persistence of migrant traffic

San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 9/24/05 | Leslie Berestein

[NormsRevenge]

BOULEVARD – The migrant trails form a maze through the creosote bushes and shrubs in this remote border community, all within plain view of homes and ranches.

These narrow dusty paths lead straight over the wooden and wire fences that line the perimeter of Ed and Donna Tisdale's ranch. One leads across their driveway. It's been a decade since they began mending fences, and they still are.

Residents of East County border communities have been in the path of human-and drug-smuggling traffic since the federal government fortified the border south of urban San Diego in 1994.

The heavy migrant traffic that had primarily come through the city moved first through rural East County and the Imperial Valley, then through the deadly deserts of Arizona, and more recently into New Mexico.

Today, apprehensions of illegal border crossers in the Border Patrol's San Diego sector are less than a quarter of what they were a decade ago. Yet while the brunt of human-smuggling traffic has bypassed Southern California, there is still enough to frustrate border residents.

In recent months, the immigration debate has gained momentum in Washington, D.C., as legislators wrangle over guest-worker programs and national security measures. It has generated a different sort of heat along the Southwest border, where dozens of self-styled border watch groups have staged controversial civilian patrols, many of them armed.

"I've had a lot of calls from people wanting to help, but at that time I had faith in my government," said Tisdale, 52, who over the years has voiced her concerns in the media and as a result has fielded calls from all manner of people offering their services, including militia members and some people she referred to as "wackos."

Until recently, she declined. But a few months ago, when an organizer from a group called Friends of the Border Patrol approached her, she changed her mind.

"This has been going on for a long time," she said. "I finally had to say, 'We need help.' "

The civilian patrols are not welcome by all East County border residents. Some believe they put a drain on law enforcement called out to monitor their patrol events, which draw not only participants, but crowds of protesters. Other property owners are wary of liability issues.

Irked at Congress But the level of frustration voiced by border residents like Tisdale is commonplace, regardless of how they feel about border watch groups. Many are frustrated not only by the foot traffic through and around their properties, but by what they believe is a lack of political will in Congress to go after employers who hire illegally.

"I think that is where most of us out here agree," said Roger Challberg, 75, a Campo resident who disapproves of amateur patrols. "The solution is to cut off the market for drugs, and to cut off the market for people. If I've got ants coming in the front door, I can stand there with my foot and stamp them out one by one, or I can pick the sugar up off the floor."

As some residents see it, too much of the focus has been on stamping. Last week, the U.S. Homeland Security Department moved to waive environmental and other laws in order to construct additional border fencing south of San Diego, causing concern that whatever traffic this curbs will simply shift east as it has done before.

Additionally, some San Diego agents have been sent to cover hot spots farther east, including on a recent detail to New Mexico.

Border watch groups look at Border Patrol agents having been sent to perform duties elsewhere – including the Gulf Coast following Hurricane Katrina – as a reason for staging patrols.

"They say they want to fill in the gap," said Chris Bauder, president of Local 1613 of the National Border Patrol Council, which represents San Diego-area agents. "Give me a break, you guys aren't filling in anything. They are taking the opportunity, seizing it, and people are believing it."

The Border Patrol officially disapproves of civilian patrols. Bauder is skeptical about the political motives of some border-watch leaders, but he said he understands the frustrations of border residents who choose to support them.

'Hot-button issue' "Everyone sees (illegal immigration) as a hot-button issue," he said. "Then you have mixed into that some people who are really fed up. They are living in an area where they see the impact of illegal immigration not being controlled." The Tisdales see the impact on their property daily. Aside from the manicured plot they live on, much of their 210-acre ranch is covered with brush, with an occasional stand of trees. It is an ideal place for hikes or for riding a horse. But when Donna Tisdale goes out hiking, she brings a trash bag.

Scattered along the trails that crisscross the property are plastic water bottles. Sometimes there is clothing. She has even found a Bible. One recent morning, a bag stuffed with booties made out of blankets, which smugglers have their clients slip over shoes so as to disguise footprints, sat near the front porch.

She also brings a gun on her outings. Some boulders are sprayed with graffiti, which she believes was put there by deported gang members trying to make it back home. She and other neighbors are also worried about an increase in drug traffic through the area, which they say has proven too lucrative even for some locals to resist.

This is one reason why Challberg, who volunteers for the Sheriff's Department, says he'd rather have more cops patrolling, not civilians. During a border watch event staged in Campo in July by a group that promoted carrying firearms, the department had to call in around 25 deputies, most on overtime, to keep peace between the group and protesters.

"If you didn't have the border watchers, you wouldn't have protesters," Challberg said. "As far as I am concerned, the money we are spending, you'd be better spending on hiring more deputies and CHPs. There is a lot of drug stuff (going on), so we need law enforcement. We need someone who can arrest people."

Smugglers' cars in pasture Nearby, Campo resident Larry Johnson sometimes sees smugglers' cars in his pasture, picking up people who have crossed on foot before heading toward the freeway. Johnson said he's not opposed to border watch groups that are peaceful and unarmed, so long as they obey laws and don't interfere with the Border Patrol.

Even so, he said he would feel uneasy about hosting them. A group of legal organizations recently placed ads in community newspapers warning property owners of liability problems if they host patrols and someone is hurt.

"If I wanted to help them I would, but I would have to think about it twice," he said.

Tisdale, who said she's already liable just because people come onto her property, said that Friends of the Border Patrol has promised her they will be in the area this weekend. Last week, the group postponed patrols following low turnout at a training meeting and resistance from protesters.

Next weekend, another border watch group plans to come to the area.

Regardless of who shows up, Tisdale just hopes the message will get to Washington that people like her are tired of being in a border-crossing zone.

"We just want the situation addressed," she said. "It's just a big mess, and we are in the middle."

[NormsRevenge]

PEGGIE PEATTIE / Union-Tribune The doormat is anything but welcoming at Donna and Ed Tisdale's house in Boulevard, where they struggle with trespassing migrants. The Tisdales recently let civilian patrols onto their property because "we're getting to the end of the line," Donna Tisdale said. "Just about every piece of fence has been broken," said Donna Tisdale one recent morning, pointing to a patched-up section of wooden fence that has yet to be painted. "They come right across the road onto our property."

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PEGGIE PEATTIE / Union-Tribune Donna Tisdale walked among the trails carved throughout her property by migrating Mexicans. The Tisdales, who live a mile and a half from the border, are worried about drug smuggling and immigrant trafficking. Meanwhile, as the debate over how to curb illegal immigration continues, some East County residents are saying they have lost patience with the official channels. The Tisdales, among others, have agreed to let civilians patrol their property a mile and a half from the border because, as Donna Tisdale recently put it, "we're getting to the end of the line."

[GBA]

Attention Republicans! If you want to get re-elected, you'd better fix the border.

[Travis McGee]

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[He Rides A White Horse]

"The solution is to cut off the market for drugs, and to cut off the market for people.

Republicans like cheap labor, and Democrats like cheap votes. As long as both parties continue to sell out average Americans on this issue, this problem isn't going away.

[nicmarlo]

ping

[shebacal]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:2:./temp/~c109Piz39g::

Here's Rep. Tom Tancredo's immigration reform bill that he recently introduced in the House.

I have asked my Representative to cosponsor it. Others could contact their Representatives and urge cosponsorship, too.

Reducing Immigration to a Genuinely Healthy Total (RIGHT) Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)
HR 3700 IH
109th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 3700
To reform immigration to serve the national interest.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
September 8, 2005
Mr. TANCREDO introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

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A BILL
To reform immigration to serve the national interest.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS; DEFINITIONS.

(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the `Reducing Immigration to a Genuinely Healthy Total (RIGHT) Act of 2005'.

(b) Table of Contents- The table of contents of this Act is as follows:

Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents; definitions.

TITLE I--LEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM

Sec. 101. Worldwide levels of immigration.

Sec. 102. Allotment of visas.

Sec. 103. Humanitarian immigration.

Sec. 104. Sunsetting adjustments under various provisions.

Sec. 105. Requirement for Congressional approval for extension of designation of foreign states for purposes of temporary protected status.

Sec. 106. Establishment of new nonimmigrant classifications; conversion of certain existing immigrant classification petitions.

TITLE II--MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

Sec. 201. Limitation on automatic birthright citizenship.

Sec. 202. Requirement for immigrants to provide affidavit of allegiance to the United States.

Sec. 203. Requirement of affidavit of support for employment-based immigrants.

Sec. 204. Making voting in foreign election a basis for automatic loss of citizenship.

Sec. 205. Treating illegal presence in the United States as not demonstrating good moral character.

(c) Definitions- For purposes of this Act, the definitions contained in subsections (a) and (b) of section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101) shall apply.

TITLE I--LEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM

SEC. 101. WORLDWIDE LEVELS OF IMMIGRATION.

Beginning with fiscal year 2006, notwithstanding section 201 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151)--

(1) the worldwide level of family-sponsored immigrants under subsection (c) of such section in any fiscal year shall be zero;

(2) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under subsection (d) of such section in any fiscal year shall be 5,200; and

(3) the worldwide level of diversity immigrants under subsection (e) of such section in any fiscal year shall be zero.

SEC. 102. ALLOTMENT OF VISAS.

(a) In General- Beginning with fiscal year 2006, notwithstanding section 203 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1153)--

(1) the number of visas that shall be allotted to family-sponsored immigrants under subsection (a) of such section in any fiscal year shall be zero;

(2) the number of visas that shall be allotted to priority workers under subsection (b)(1) of such section (and to spouses and children of such workers under subsection (d) of such section) in any fiscal year shall not exceed 5,000, the number of visas that shall be allotted in any fiscal year to priority workers under subsection (b)(5) of such section (and to spouses and children of such workers under subsection (d) of such section) in any fiscal year shall not exceed 200, and the number of visas that shall be allotted to other aliens subject to the worldwide level for employment-based immigrants in any fiscal year shall be zero;

(3) the number of visas that shall be allotted to special immigrants under subsection (b)(4) of such section (and to spouses and children of such workers under subsection (d) of such section) in any fiscal year shall not exceed 1,000; and

(4) the number of visas that shall be allotted to diversity immigrants under subsection (c) of such section in any fiscal year shall be zero.

Nothing in this title shall be construed as imposing any numerical limitation on special immigrants described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 101(a)(27) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(27)) who may be provided immigrant visas (or who otherwise may acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence).

(b) Limitation on Sponsorship by Certain Aliens- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, effective October 1, 2006, no visa may be allotted to any immigrant on the basis of a petition by an individual who has filed an application under section 210 or section 245A of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1160, 1255a).

(c) Elimination of Preference Categories- Effective October 1, 2006, no classification petition may be filed or approved, and no alien may be issued an immigration visa number, for the following preference categories:

(1) FAMILY PREFERENCE- Preference under section 203(a).

(2) EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCE- Preference under section 203(b), other than as an alien described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 203(b)(1) or under section 203(b)(5), or under section 203(d) as the spouse or minor child of either such an alien.

(3) DIVERSITY- Preference under section 203(c).

(d) Limitation on Granting Immigrant Status- Effective October 1, 2006, the Secretary of Homeland Security may not accept or approve any petition for classification under section 204 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1154) except for classification by reason of a family relationship described in section 201(b)(2) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(2)) or priority worker or investor status under paragraph (1)(A), (1)(B), or (5) of subsection (b) of section 203 of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1153), or as a spouse or child of such a worker or investor under subsection (d) of such section, or as an alien described in section 201(b)(1)(B) or 201(b)(1)(C) of such Act.

SEC. 103. HUMANITARIAN IMMIGRATION.

(a) Annual Limitation of 50,000- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, subject to subsection (b), beginning with fiscal year 2006 the sum of the following shall not exceed 50,000:

(1) The number of refugees who are admitted under section 207 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1157) in a fiscal year.

(2) The number of admissions made available in such fiscal year to adjust to the status of permanent residence the status of aliens granted asylum under section 209(b) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1159(b)).

(3) The number of aliens whose status is adjusted in such fiscal year under section 646 of the Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (division C of Public Law 104-208), relating to Polish and Hungarian parolees.

(4) The number of aliens whose status is adjusted in such fiscal year under section 599E of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 1990 (relating to Soviet and Indochinese parolees).

(5) The number of other aliens whose removal is cancelled (and whose status is adjusted) in such fiscal year under section 240A of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1229b).

(6) The number of aliens who are provided lawful permanent resident status in such fiscal year on the basis of a private bill passed by Congress.

(b) Exception- In applying subsection (a), aliens who are spouses or children of citizens of the United States, or who are admitted under the limitations described in section 102, shall not be counted.

SEC. 104. SUNSETTING ADJUSTMENTS UNDER VARIOUS PROVISIONS.

(a) Sunset for IRCA-Related and Certain Other Amnesties- An alien may not be issued an immigrant visa or otherwise acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence under any of the following provisions, unless the alien has filed an application for such visa or status on or before the date of the enactment of this Act:

(1) Section 245A of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1255a), commonly known as the IRCA legalization program.

(2) Section 210 of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1160), commonly known as the agricultural worker amnesty program.

(3) Section 249 of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1259), commonly known as registry.

(4) Section 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 1988, relating to Amerasian immigration.

(b) Sunset for HRIFA and NACARA Amnesties- An alien may not be issued an immigrant visa and may not otherwise acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence under any of the following provisions, unless the alien has filed an application for such visa or status on or before the date of the enactment of this Act:

(1) Section 202 of the Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act of 1997 (title II of Public Law 105-100).

(2) The Haitian Refugee and Immigration Fairness Act of 1998 (division A of section 101(h) of Public Law 105-277).

(c) Immediate Repeal of Cuban-Haitian Adjustment- An alien may not be issued an immigrant visa and may not otherwise acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence) under any section 202 of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, unless the alien has filed an application for such visa or status on or before the date of the enactment of this Act:

(d) Immediate Repeal of Lautenberg-Morrison Provisions- Effective on the date of the enactment of this Act, section 599D of of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 1990 (Public Law 101-167) is repealed.

SEC. 105. REQUIREMENT FOR CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL FOR EXTENSION OF DESIGNATION OF FOREIGN STATES FOR PURPOSES OF TEMPORARY PROTECTED STATUS.

Effective on October 1, 2006, the period of designation of a foreign state under section 244(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1254(b)) may not be extended beyond the initial designation period without the approval of both Houses of Congress.

SEC. 106. ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW NONIMMIGRANT CLASSIFICATIONS; CONVERSION OF CERTAIN EXISTING IMMIGRANT CLASSIFICATION PETITIONS.

(a) Establishment of Nonimmigrant Classifications- Effective October 1, 2006, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish the following new nonimmigrant classifications (under section 101(a)(15) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)):

(1) SPOUSES AND MINOR CHILDREN OF LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS-

(A) IN GENERAL- A nonimmigrant classification for an alien who is the spouse or child of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence.

(B) PERIOD OF VALIDITY OF NONIMMIGRANT VISA- A visa issued for nonimmigrant classification under this paragraph shall be valid for a period of 3 years. Such visa may be renewed indefinitely so long as the principal alien is residing in the United States and the nonimmigrant alien remains the spouse or child of such alien.

(C) SUBSEQUENT ADJUSTMENT TO LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS AS IMMEDIATE RELATIVES UPON NATURALIZATION OF PRINCIPAL ALIEN- If the principal alien described in subparagraph (A) becomes a naturalized citizen of the United States, the alien may apply for permanent resident status of such spouse and child as an immediate relative under section 201(b)(2)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(2)(A)) and, for purposes of making such determination, the age of the child shall be the age of such child as of the date of approval of the nonimmigrant status under subparagraph (A).

(2) PARENTS OF ADULT UNITED STATES CITIZENS-

(A) IN GENERAL- A nonimmigrant classification for an alien who is the parent of a citizen of the United States if the citizen is at least 21 years of age.

(B) PERIOD OF VALIDITY OF NONIMMIGRANT VISA- A visa issued for nonimmigrant classification under this subparagraph shall be valid for a period of 5 years. Such visa may be renewed indefinitely so long as the citizen son or daughter is residing in the United States.

(C) LIMITATIONS ON EMPLOYMENT AND PUBLIC BENEFITS AND SUPPORT BY PETITIONING CITIZEN SON OR DAUGHTER- An alien provided nonimmigrant status under this paragraph is not authorized to be employed in the United States and is not entitled, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to any benefits funded by the Federal Government or any State. In the case of such an alien, the petitioning United States citizen son or daughter shall be responsible for the support of the alien in the United States, regardless of the resources of such alien.

(b) Conversion of Current Classification Petitions-

(1) FAMILY SECOND PREFERENCE CONVERSIONS- In the case of a classification petition under section 204(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1154(a)) for preference status described in section 203(a)(2)(A) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(a)(2)(A)) for an alien that has been filed before October 1, 2006, as of such date such petition shall be deemed to be a petition for classification of the alien involved as a nonimmigrant under the classification established under subsection (a)(1).

(2) IMMEDIATE RELATIVE PETITIONS FOR PARENTS- In the case of a classification petition under section 204(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1154(a)) for immediate relative status status under section 201(b)(2)(A) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(2)(A)) as the parent of a United States citizen that has been filed before October 1, 2006, as of such date such petition shall be deemed to be a petition for classification of the alien involved as a nonimmigrant under the classification established under subsection (a)(2).

TITLE II--MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

SEC. 201. LIMITATION ON AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP.

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, with respect to an individual born after the date of the enactment of this Act, the individual shall not be a national or citizen at birth under section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401) unless at least one of the individual's parents is, at the time of birth, a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence.

SEC. 202. REQUIREMENT FOR IMMIGRANTS TO PROVIDE AFFIDAVIT OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES.

(a) In General- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no alien shall be provided an immigrant visa or otherwise provided status as an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence unless the alien has executed an affidavit of allegiance to the United States that is in a form approved by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

(b) Effective Date- Subsection (a) shall take effect on and after such date, not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, as the Secretary of Homeland Security specifies after having approved the form for the affidavit under such section.

SEC. 203. REQUIREMENT OF AFFIDAVIT OF SUPPORT FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS.

(a) In General- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no alien shall be provided an an immigrant visa or otherwise provided status as an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence as an employment-based immigrant under section 203(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(b)) unless there has been executed an affidavit of support that meets the requirements of section 213A of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1183a) alien has executed an affidavit of allegiance to the United States that is in a form approved by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

(b) Effective Date- Subsection (a) shall apply to visas and lawful permanent residence status provided after the date of the enactment of this Act.

SEC. 204. MAKING VOTING IN FOREIGN ELECTION A BASIS FOR AUTOMATIC LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP.

(a) In General- Section 349(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)) is amended--

(1) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (7) and inserting `; or'; and

(2) by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(8) voting in an election in a foreign country.'.

(b) Effective Date- The amendments made by subsection (a) apply to voting occurring after the date of the enactment of this Act.

SEC. 205. TREATING ILLEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES AS NOT DEMONSTRATING GOOD MORAL CHARACTER.

(a) In General- Section 101(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(f)) is amended--

(1) by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (8);

(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (9) and inserting `; or'; and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (9) the following new paragraph:

`(10) one who--

`(A) at the time good moral character is required to be demonstrated, is unlawfully present in the United States without having been admitted or paroled;

`(B) at the time good moral character is required to be demonstrated, has been inspected and admitted to the United States but gained such admission through fraud or misrepresentation; or

`(C) at any time has been unlawfully present in the United States for an aggregate period of 181 days or more.'.

(b) Effective Date- The amendments made by subsection (a) shall apply to determinations of good moral character made after the date of the enactment of this Act.

[HiJinx]

People, it's gonna get ugly when the border residents have finally said, 'Enough!' You think the Minuteman Project rivalled the shot heard 'round the world? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[John Jorsett]

many of them armed.

I'm sure that phrase is coded in a word-processor macro that gets automatically activated any time a reporter refers to a Minuteman-type group.

[janetgreen]

I can't help but wonder how some of the OBL would like it if illegal aliens continually dumped their trash on THEIR properties and violated THEIR space. Would they take notice then?

I'll send this article with my comments to Guv Arnold, Babs Boxer, Dianne Feinstein and Jane Harman and ask them that question. I think I'll call their offices too.

WHY are American citizens forced to put up with this crap?

[TLI]

dozens of self-styled border watch groups have staged controversial civilian patrols, many of them armed.

self-styled? as opposed to self-styled federal law breakers and treasonous communist org that support the illegals?

including militia members and some people she referred to as "wackos."

What militia? Exactly who are the "wackos?

The civilian patrols are not welcome by all East County border residents.

Which means that they are quite welcome, in fact invited by all the other East County residents?

Some believe they put a drain on law enforcement called out to monitor their patrol events, which draw not only participants, but crowds of protesters.

Other property owners are wary of liability issues.

Then don't grant permission for access. Oh wait, the illegals and drug smugglers ALREADY don't ask permission.

regardless of how they feel about border watch groups.

WHO has these "feelings." And how do "they" feel about the drugs, murders, attacks and human trafficking?

a Campo resident who disapproves of amateur patrols.

What is the criteria for a "professional" patrol? Success at cutting the flow of illegal border crossings apparently is not in this equation.

Additionally, some San Diego agents have been sent to cover hot spots farther east, including on a recent detail to New Mexico.

Could that be because President of the United States G. W. Bush ORDERED almost all of the BP agents in New Mexico to New Orleans???

Border watch groups look at Border Patrol agents having been sent to perform duties elsewhere including the Gulf Coast following Hurricane Katrina as a reason for staging patrols.

No, the Border Watch groups see the 500% to 2000% increase in illegal border crossings as the reason for the "amateur" patrols.

"Give me a break, you guys aren't filling in anything. They are taking the opportunity, seizing it, and people are believing it."

Yes Sir, success at just about anything will make "believers" out of dang near anyone.

The Border Patrol officially disapproves of civilian patrols. Bauder is skeptical about the political motives of some border-watch leaders

And the rank and file agents on the line doing the actual work freaking LOVE the Border Watch Groups. The "political motivation" of the Border Watch groups is to get the DAMN border under control.

Challberg, who volunteers for the Sheriff's Department, says he'd rather have more cops patrolling, not civilians. During a border watch event staged in Campo in July by a group that promoted carrying firearms, the department had to call in around 25 deputies, most on overtime, to keep peace between the group and protesters.

And we have video of those very deputies doing absolutely nothing to stop the illegal attacks on the Border Watch Members which is clearly dereliction of duty. So much for sticking with "professionals."

"If you didn't have the border watchers, you wouldn't have protesters," Challberg said. "As far as I am concerned, the money we are spending, you'd be better spending on hiring more deputies and CHPs.

And if you did not have oxygen you would not have those pesky house fires, which makes about as much sense. So American Citizens are now the criminals because they engaged their First Amendments Rights? What an azz!

Smugglers' cars in pasture Nearby, Campo resident Larry Johnson sometimes sees smugglers' cars in his pasture, picking up people who have crossed on foot before heading toward the freeway. Johnson said he's not opposed to border watch groups that are peaceful and unarmed.

Unarmed? Are the human traffickers and drug smugglers unarmed? Do they have superior rights than American Citizens?

Even so, he said he would feel uneasy about hosting them. A group of legal organizations recently placed ads in community newspapers warning property owners of liability problems if they host patrols and someone is hurt.

And the "legal organizations" A - C - L - U are placing those adds fishing for the very law suites that they will file and benefit from, both if they win and collecting a paycheck from the fed gov just for filing the suite! Yep, they would get paid TWICE. What a deal eh? Plus all the money comes from you the taxpayer!

Well Mizz Leslie Berestein, you seem to have quite a future ahead of you. It ranks right up there, somewhere between Goebbels and Bagdad Bob.

In the meantime, if it's ok by you and doesn't offend anyone and will not interfere with the butterflies and rainbows that comprise your world Mizz Leslie Berestein, I gotta pack and head for El Paso. I have one of those evil Border Watch Operations to run.

[taxed2death]

According to this thread....everything is going swimmingly:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489721/posts


Yet, By ICE's own numbers, border crossings have increased by 25% since 911.

Who's Lying and why?


LOL

[Know your rights]

"The solution is to cut off the market for drugs, and to cut off the market for people.

The transport and use of drugs are much easier to hide than the transport and use of people; I see hope for the latter solution but not the former.

[Czar]

It just keeps getting worse and worse.

Thanks for the ping (I think)...

[nicmarlo]

It does; yw (I think : )

[WatchingInAmazement]

WHY are American citizens forced to put up with this crap?

What these many families along the border encounter on a daily basis - for years - is nothing less than living in a war zone, with no protection from our government or many of their fellow citizens. To perpetuate the invasion or even to ignore it is to be less than human or American.

Thanks for the reminder on sending the suits letters. I've been lax of late.

[janetgreen]

Thanks for the reminder on sending the suits letters.

Y'er welcome! The "suits" live in their own protected world, they don't have to encounter illegal aliens in their lives, their jobs are not taken by illegals, their kids' schools are not overwhelmed by illegals, they don't have to worry about their hospitals being closed because of illegals, etc. the list goes on. It's all about THEM. They don't really care about US.

They can ignore us until the time comes for re-election. Only then do they start paying attention. I hope voters make a strong statement next year at the polls.

[raybbr]

People, it's gonna get ugly when the border residents have finally said, 'Enough!' You think the Minuteman Project rivalled the shot heard 'round the world? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

I can't wait for it.